From lytlesw@gmail.com Mon Feb 08 17:47:30 2010 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NefCI-0002iK-45 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:47:29 -0800 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so73572ewy.4 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:47:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nUebkwxR1Tr6yNgnhUkYe9Dl4rAuAGOq0ei1XdL0zfg=; b=fLDtRCuYJvyk77Sff7dqYX34sDM7ADacDQH+zogiBrebkOFj40I81VfVaCmNR2LgUP QA3vuLbfK6+x+DHq1p4U6P07ehwy9xc1XJIzqjXVeqeNUqilvG9C0Iln/QTYWJv3Dz+0 K1cS0YMsIo9dHssnsevhPkzJbVQBm/PgEvoNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cPrlEzw1d9OjuePlwyvPBZcipAsSNcUK+Q6Mjtany3LKJM2+UIRvcWU7n/KLFiRl3i ABpj/U5uzEBySzHz6aJ16cerweCPDVyldb1CW4wRrfeksEIZP+hgELmLl0cLWLrVLzij BLuLbL2gLgUsUI+RWQnHIvMrcDPNoDRv0KzTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.39.132 with SMTP id g4mr4907349ebe.33.1265679639594; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:40:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <715718.90598.qm@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <218950.62113.qm@web46104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <925d17561002081358if4eddacl7ccc619f0da8af3a@mail.gmail.com> <715718.90598.qm@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:39 -0500 Message-ID: <249d5b951002081740h256fa074h5cef4ff8990ee2ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking! From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485318bfb514a17047f2101ea --001485318bfb514a17047f2101ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As I understand xorlo, lo is for any and all instances of gadri from selma'o LE, not just when one is unsure of which to use. In other words, it makes all the other cmavo in LE obsolete. stevo On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Whipsnerd Lhooser < synaptic.explosion@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thank you xorxes. So, allow me to re-iterate: > > xorlo simply refers to the idea that in an instance where a lojbanist is > unsure of the proper gadri to be utilized, the default is lo. > > gadri is the lojban equivalent of an English article (I do understand the > principle of malglico, however I'm using this for reference) > > la: Used only for cmene; Is the article which immediately proceeds a cmene > / it designates the next word as a cmene. > > le: A gadri which denotes a specific thing/instance which the speaker has > in mind. (le is optional and may be substituted for lo) > > lo: A gadri which introduces a thing/instance. (Specific or non-specific) > > loi: A gadri which says that an attribute/action that is being applied to a > group is being applied to that group as a whole, not necessarily to the > individuals comprising that group. > > Is this more correct? > ** > > --001485318bfb514a17047f2101ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As I understand xorlo, lo is for any and all instances of gadri from s= elma'o LE, not just when one is unsure of which to use. In other words,= it makes all the other cmavo in LE obsolete.
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stevo

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Whipsnerd Lhoose= r <syn= aptic.explosion@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you xorxes. So, allow me to re-iterate:

xorlo simply refe= rs to the idea that in an instance where a lojbanist is unsure of the prope= r gadri to be utilized, the default is lo.

gadri is the lojban equiv= alent of an English article (I do understand the principle of malglico, how= ever I'm using this for reference)

la: Used only for cmene; Is the article which immediately proceeds a cm= ene / it designates the next word as a cmene.

le: A gadri which deno= tes a specific thing/instance which the speaker has in mind. (le is optiona= l and may be substituted for lo)

lo: A gadri which introduces a thing/instance. (Specific or non-specifi= c)

loi: A gadri which says that an attribute/action that is being a= pplied to a group is being applied to that group as a whole, not necessaril= y to the individuals comprising that group.

Is this more correct?
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