From eyeonus@gmail.com Sat Feb 13 07:39:50 2010 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NgK5y-0007U0-Mt for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:39:49 -0800 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so159957ewy.4 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lYmprq0tbuoA6j0s1gylN+o4DQ7XpolZmnaboUkxyTo=; b=r87XHQazMnd2OBrXUCB8vsGiBBhR0Rn2n/7Nf6U+lr8V55JPBRIw7gX8SW9Wcsf38k p3LDZmTiThBFZN9tagxImOPBiCf0IhNPMofgFm9Py65rLwuUFN7qCNaL6IknYlpzlKLx Uccu5Hg0lrDcDusfXy8FulQjGbU2KkYSHNlFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Lm7PSlXhXZjyOUk9YFk9oYRAwqBxLCtIeXOTIgZWUB/fRyscr/wlNUfS4ZEeX+7JzA DMVrA+E3nirCLoMBBkhrBoBVq8CXdTdXy4E49MOsWX7KtHU2AWG4s9AuzRRJgf8hsEjr j2VtgvXYH8sgKtOQ8O44zLnKWuvrVa8bRrGeE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.16 with SMTP id v16mr1690343wee.162.1266075580285; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B768767.1030503@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <218950.62113.qm@web46104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <425e4ac21002081956jb0e0de5n98a1a5446c4f7609@mail.gmail.com> <201002090214.40868.phma@phma.optus.nu> <702226df1002090821m1703c5a8l569467a229bb024@mail.gmail.com> <4B768767.1030503@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:39:40 +0000 Message-ID: <702226df1002130739k9738a55t8439e02cae71a2bf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking! From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My mistake. But to clarify, my mistake was not caused by the LFB or CLL. I assumed that, since {la mlatu} is a word used as a name, that it was a {cmevla}, since a {cmene valsi} is a name-type-of-word, whereas {.aionys.}, which is only a name, is merely a {cmene}. Of course all {cmevla} are {cmene}, but not all {cmene} are {cmevla}. On 2/13/10, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >> One thing I want to mention: {la} is not only for cmene. It is the gadri >> used for all cmevla. {la mlatu}, for instance, is a cmevla, whereas >> {la.aionys.} is a cmene. > > > No, you got it completely reversed. cmevla refers to words than end in a > consonant, such as {aionys} and cmene refers to every word that is used as a > name (i.o.w. after {la}) such as in {la mlatu}. > > Unfortunately lojban for beginners confuses the words somewhat. > > mu'o mi'e timos > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu