From moorkids@juno.com Tue Mar 16 22:16:59 2010 Received: from outbound-mail.dca.untd.com ([64.136.47.15]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nrlck-0001xv-Mz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1268803008; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=ijmCE2DcLydP+XtrwzH0gHT826Ln73Y6cQu2QKeFbM+kbmItEaBG7TW9EwKiwVMTo ZJFjUL3nFO8m4b4eP2OjoqIGle0c64HxBRta+lBPhVih1Jb9zKWtT5t/rn3NktMhtZ 4jwNpGTPv9D8IlgTZfGHhrESfvS3hOxa3M9f6X+o= X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail18.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.158]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABF4A3P5AW3QJAS for (sender ); Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:16:43 -0700 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: ynfJG4AWjrNUTte+ZzK1n1cTUY5LiCUEz+TyrUBB9VgQOQKRDYhwdg== Received: (from moorkids@juno.com) by webmail18.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail) id P87XU89X; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:16:13 PDT Received: from [98.225.33.20] by webmail18.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:15:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [98.225.33.20] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "moorkids@juno.com" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:15:39 GMT To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: mluni and lunra X-Mailer: Webmail Version 6.1_P2 Message-Id: <20100316.221539.2470.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-UNTD-BodySize: 1387 X-ContentStamp: 9:4:3957413837 X-MAIL-INFO:0e4155c0612d0d25710049b16935fd00f50d45edf4118954f9f0744d39b539b4b4914189e1b59150a470d4d04999d599242494c044b9d5c9318da57d9d648555cd84519541a01005006480ad X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.158|webmail18.dca.untd.com|outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com|moorkids@juno.com Thanks for the response, it was very helpful! ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jorge Llamb=EDas To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mluni and lunra Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:22:16 -0300 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:22 AM, moorkids@juno.com w= rote: > Hi, > Just wondering ... > > Why are both mluni and lunra necessary? No single gismu is strictly "necessary". There's a lot of overlap in the concepts covered by gismu, think of them as convenient rather than necessary. > mluni: x1 is a satellite/moon orbiting x2 with characteristics x3, orb= ital parameters x4 > lunra: x1 is a major natural satellite/moon of planet x2; x1 is Earth'= s moon [default] > > The only difference (I notice) between the x1 and x2 of both is lunra = is a natural satellite where mluni is any satellite (natural or unnatura= l). =A0Other than that mluni just seems to expand upon lunra. Another difference is that x2 of lunra is a planet, while x2 of mluni can be just about anything. >=A0Is the only purpose for lunra is to specify the "natural" of the sat= ellite (couldn't that be specified in mluni's x3?) and to serve as a def= ault for our moon? terdi, solri and lunra are important enough for humans that they got their own gismu in spite of them being special cases of plini, tarci and mluni. mu'o mi'e xorxes ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=3DJUTAGOUT1FREM0210