From 3_uawSwAAEOEORMEDQ-EHJLQQHUVJRRJOHJURXSV.FRP@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Mar 29 10:44:47 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3_uawSwAAEOEORMEDQ-EHJLQQHUVJRRJOHJURXSV.FRP@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwJ10-0005Vr-04 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:47 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf8329887ywh.28 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=PigTKMHZZFkf8J4miSzwXDy41LFVhPTafV9MWMdRkfc=; b=MHlpSoEy7P5arlMv59Tqkda1XzbB8LPuUzfjR8kdYPkMeuVcLy55/Ws5ZJ9MYLWgz/ DvduQDh3nXFXP7m1zWw/X635X3yAsYyGqg3+oQHQmN0ebp2jA03mP//I40xosGnmaw04 Ro/Qw8aGT6e2Q3IfbH9LGrPYe1MUcqUKIDZsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=zmtilAkIiKYF6g8bOXvqBZ6Z4mMpoMprMDRkRh1C+jHTJV9Q7ktnecokf4VXaQTkyg qPwF6pim0558XaIb1J7OCNehZfMbkubxZBzm0MG/ATqA3KYggVZmiU4Br47QM7cXdY1A SsMfCOy8/mCssTtQZHN/aNN7Se6LpRgQYPyVE= Received: by 10.150.174.5 with SMTP id w5mr291266ybe.1.1269884670629; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.122.100 with SMTP id k36ls499243ibr.0.p; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.16 with SMTP id bc16mr330101ibb.16.1269884668780; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.16 with SMTP id bc16mr330100ibb.16.1269884668749; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si557747iwn.4.2010.03.29.10.44.27; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.53; Received: by mail-pw0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 10so7644442pwj.40 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.51.3 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1f1080831003101520r1e87f21cuacb4cd23fa9a2d4c@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c161003101532q3bf8ca8exc72b1fb3c5bcc9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:44:26 -0400 Received: by 10.141.91.19 with SMTP id t19mr2755961rvl.185.1269884667197; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f789a61003291044s3fe0f0a3u15493fcc855081a1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Duration questions From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/8a645652df58adca X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/7e0c9fa4a81ec53f Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:24 PM, tijlan wrote: > > Why would {ze'a lo cabdei} not mean "a time interval which is medium > relative to the length of today", referring to about 12 hours, instead > of "with today (24 hours) as the whole interval, the length of which I > consider medium/unspecified"? Then we could just use {ze'e} in asking > "To what does the whole interval of your having been living in this > house amount?" If the answer is {lo cabdei}, the modal remains to be > {ze'e} independent of the speakers' measurement. > > Take heart. That's exactly how I use ze'a and its kin. Although I have no idea why your message took so long to get in my inbox... --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.