From 3212ySwoJEDclnhfbVakblZfTbe.VhfehcUTg-UXZbggXklZhhZeXZkhnil.Vhf@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 13:24:14 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3212ySwoJEDclnhfbVakblZfTbe.VhfehcUTg-UXZbggXklZhhZeXZkhnil.Vhf@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nwhyp-0003ZL-Oy for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:24:13 -0700 Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12sf459882vws.16 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:24:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=R/HmH6WOAJjQInKnF3JL/vlD3L+bsAFlYB76SF0CYxM=; b=qxM1EPLuErFqcfOavXokgbrMvMrgGQcJMiVtahUTd8P6nPo0bVVqQ/r4M94HLejUUc udx0m0+kmbrCIJyPE/QE1uLvfMmRtgPvRcPR+Z9HVtLkPXVJycAP4YXzvhlP+ouMUUcC h80gHNBuXh+zkqB0gEQYM22PrnTY4QS1acCB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Boon/RjKX4HvPsWBoYyxxmH+F5tSoJfhh3S1a8x5qQp0D9h8EWOEiz8rN816oL3ZKF o5CRhWVrR6Bt6lFhNUjupniNPb7wUgkVFo6gSwpPY7waaDsZppVhza82TzZBT5yW8Bud Y36tovdgmNz74PdLC2thdj3XNDwCr6GRbsyKk= Received: by 10.220.122.78 with SMTP id k14mr271499vcr.10.1269980635777; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.47.17 with SMTP id l17ls2791429vcf.5.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.64.213 with SMTP id f21mr1713787vci.22.1269980633633; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.40 with SMTP id 40mr8237106aga.9.1269976657411; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.40 with SMTP id 40mr8237105aga.9.1269976657358; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com (mail-gw0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si417840gxk.2.2010.03.30.12.17.36; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.47; Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so223133gwj.6 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.20 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BB2243E.6000606@gmail.com> References: <20100329204535.GB6084@digitalkingdom.org> <64e5cd9c1003291357u58c898a1s453e6983814834e1@mail.gmail.com> <20100329210312.GE6084@digitalkingdom.org> <4BB11971.2080607@gmail.com> <702226df1003300734s21eab69cxccbe3d283c9f6839@mail.gmail.com> <4BB2243E.6000606@gmail.com> From: Christopher Doty Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:16 -0700 Received: by 10.100.246.15 with SMTP id t15mr5535123anh.29.1269976656078; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] smart.fm flashcards To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/6c147d83491c81ae X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/403fa7536c88b181 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68debcb7569990483097bdc --0016e68debcb7569990483097bdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is pretty fun, and far more effective, I think, than quizlet.com! One thought--I don't know if this is (easily) change-able, but when it asks multiple choice questions, it gives options like, say, "lo cusku, lo melbi, lo te nelci," etc. Since the gismu in each "chunk" seems to be the same, i= t would be easy to pick out the right one without actually learning the rest of the place structures. This could be made a bit harder by having, for each gismu, all of the options that are only for that gismu. So, "cusku" would have multiple choice answers "lo cusku, lo se cusku, lo te cusku, lo ve cusku," so that you'd really have to learn the various places and what they mean. But, yeah, fun! I do agree that we should get more people to record stuff so that there is not only a real human voice in there, but it would also be awesome if smart.fm could randomly pull any one from a list of sound files so people could hear some variability. Chris On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:18, Leo Molas wrote: > El 30/03/2010 11:34 a.m., Jonathan Jones escribi=F3: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Leo Molas > > wrote: > > > > El 29/03/2010 06:03 p.m., Robin Lee Powell escribi=F3: > > > perhaps we should keep a record of the already > > recorded words. > > > > > > The list that was used to create the lessons is located at: > > http://tinyurl.com/simplifiedgismu, you're > > welcome to use it for that purpose. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > Great. I'll do that. > > BTW, I don't really like the "expanded" lessons, with "lo", "lo se", so, > I hope anyone minds if I only do gismu's. > > -- > My lojban journal: http://learninglojban.wordpress.com > My personal blog: http://leomolas.tumblr.com > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016e68debcb7569990483097bdc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is pretty fun, and far more effective, I think, than quizlet.com!

One thought--I don't = know if this is (easily) change-able, but when it asks multiple choice ques= tions, it gives options like, say, "lo cusku, lo melbi, lo te nelci,&q= uot; etc. =A0Since the gismu in each "chunk" seems to be the same= , it would be easy to pick out the right one without actually learning the = rest of the place structures. =A0This could be made a bit harder by having,= for each gismu, all of the options that are only for that gismu. =A0So, &q= uot;cusku" would have multiple choice answers "lo cusku, lo se cu= sku, lo te cusku, lo ve cusku," so that you'd really have to learn= the various places and what they mean.

But, yeah, fun!

I do agree tha= t we should get more people to record stuff so that there is not only a rea= l human voice in there, but it would also be awesome if smart.fm could randomly pull any one from a list of sound file= s so people could hear some variability.

Chris

On Tue, Mar 30,= 2010 at 09:18, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com> wrote:
El 30/03/2010 11:34 a.m., Jonathan Jones escribi=F3:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com
> <mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0 El 29/03/2010 06:03 p.m., Robin Lee Powell escribi=F3:
> =A0 =A0 > <snip>perhaps we should keep a record of the alread= y
> =A0 =A0 recorded words.
>
>
> The list that was used to create the lessons is located at:
> http://tinyurl.com/simplifiedgismu, you're
> welcome to use it for that purpose.
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu


Great. I'll do that.

BTW, I don't really like the "expanded" lessons, with "l= o", "lo se", so,
I hope anyone minds if I only do gismu's.

--
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My personal blog: = http://leomolas.tumblr.com


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