From 3z5yzSwAAEGsUXSKJW-KNPRWWNabPXXPUNPaXdYb.LXV@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Mar 31 12:05:11 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3z5yzSwAAEGsUXSKJW-KNPRWWNabPXXPUNPaXdYb.LXV@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nx3Dt-0008Pw-0n for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:05:10 -0700 Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32sf7194pvb.16 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=GOndAg6rcF5ayZs3If1sPkwUBh9bUcv9rWJvbKt/Skk=; b=FAWpDRJyZX8Ye6o3SlZLIYl164YG4+et9Dt4HK7tbqhJ9h3bWuAoakHiYI3oh+v6Mb ISXThHQxwu/rsnSLdxUCstoD8XMJFaNGMR8GWj1WvH1MUSlXZL4wm7iJjiEGvL6WPSIH fcTmf5ZfqE7FBiE7fIYnmpZ/oHoAKFImuEoy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=M5JeTnWoLwNxEGEb+HaquihcpN5We/R5eopw87l8s8mUtNx/QXkWUOa11UQrseLcUv tVBxH4mC7AkEefZ1BV3TyG4GLvVevg3karahWoDkwyCL5+xUcM6q0EHXkIBJEXutx188 5obvMet+gmkp4Ugzfb/+XJaW0rjOknbS657sY= Received: by 10.140.83.37 with SMTP id g37mr438499rvb.29.1270062287199; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.187.12 with SMTP id o12ls423886rvp.0.p; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.15 with SMTP id b15mr1367958rvn.0.1270062285434; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.15 with SMTP id b15mr1367957rvn.0.1270062285404; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f193.google.com (mail-pz0-f193.google.com [209.85.222.193]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si1507084pzk.3.2010.03.31.12.04.44; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 209.85.222.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.222.193; Received: by mail-pz0-f193.google.com with SMTP id 31so528647pzk.8 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.77.18 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:04:44 -0600 Received: by 10.143.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr1359310wfp.2.1270062284186; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Help with gerku From: Brian Robertson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 209.85.222.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=raposa.msscripting@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: raposa.msscripting@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/8add88043c91c651 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/e5dd163329789996 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd608424aa59204831d6b96 --000e0cd608424aa59204831d6b96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 gerku is used to refer to a domesticated dog as well as canines in general. Keep in mind that certain canines also have their own gismu (lorxu for fox, and labno for wolf). If you don't specify differently it is assumed you are talking about a domesticated dog. Hugglesworth. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Christopher Doty wrote: > It occurred to me yesterday that I'm not sure how to use gerku: > > x1 is a dog/canine/[bitch] of species/breed x2 > > I'm wondering about the "species" designation for the x2 place--my > impression is that "dog" refers to a specific (sub) species: Canis lupus > (familiaris), meaning that the x2 slot would only really be about breeds, > and not species, since the species would be redundant. Is "dog" here > actually referring a higher-level classification, like Canis or Canidae? > Can a coyote be properly referred to as "gerku?" A fox? Or is "gerku" > just for domesticated dogs? > > Thanks! > > .kris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000e0cd608424aa59204831d6b96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gerku is used to refer to a domesticated dog as well as canines in general.= Keep in mind that certain canines also have their own gismu (lorxu for fox= , and labno for wolf). If you don't specify differently it is assumed y= ou are talking about a domesticated dog.

Hugglesworth.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at= 12:36 PM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurred to me yesterday that I'm not sure how to use gerku:
x1 is a dog/canine=
/[bitch] of species/breed x2
I'm wondering about the "species" designation for the x2 plac= e--my impression is that "dog" refers to a specific (sub) species= : Canis lupus (familiaris), meaning that the x2 slot would only really be a= bout breeds, and not species, since the species would be redundant. =A0Is &= quot;dog" here actually referring a higher-level classification, like = Canis or Canidae? =A0Can a coyote be properly referred to as "gerku?&q= uot; =A0A fox? =A0Or is "gerku" just for domesticated dogs?

Thanks!

.kris.

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