From lukeabergen@gmail.com Tue Mar 02 11:10:22 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com ([74.125.83.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmXU1-0001ai-Dp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:22 -0800 Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19so269270gwj.40 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fZPiS69uzlzul1Vofso6K9fOmf52SDYy8q1EO0fpF6I=; b=a+Y4KMxbw4OMqSYu2HR1bet7xNibe6dDwOL1V9+RP2mYrZbcqjYF91y5fo9Jay9D7m z0Zh4tUCEt3eF3kJGxVX3lRXTX0F+ZaUma65mnxbhsGB2aRi1KYJl0PYrv9/CCl0HXfJ GMIcNFVqh0EcxJwznzjkS7W+CVIi63YoogI8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S5PpiUbApkHq9q0G1bJ/ihjJ53vstvWBS6SBuqFPSbCpDO5nSM4ci5MbVXxup00dR5 E91mJcEu8vlGYsAtEbzdqJP37WpTWaulEdFEv1ama4jdRXOg+zFbWAcOJYD55Q2Y4Quf b5R6Zl41Gj/RK/ZcmQtY/RGNIo+6oAHnut+ZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.167.28 with SMTP id u28mr69299ano.237.1267557011140; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17561003021058h471a4e6ft542178ad0f246b2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831003020851r6ef490f6ydf450d55606dedb1@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003020905o337c4d48v5160b5f407cd9858@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003020925y71c7f15dwca7b88e469bae65c@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003021049p6b332d66r6f6b3e9de8fbc8a3@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003021058h471a4e6ft542178ad0f246b2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:10:11 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9301003021110o1186b4b6pf68a281a0260acd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Asking specific questions From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5965d61b2270480d61d8a --001636c5965d61b2270480d61d8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ..... what happened to rigid rules of morphology so that you always know when you're dealing with a brivla vs a cmavo cluster vs. a cmevla vs. etc...? Is there no hope of fixing these exceptions? It rubs me the wrong way that the logical language would have exceptions. 2010/3/2 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > > oops, my bad. I wondered about that, but I thought that {y} doesn't > count > > when looking to see if the first 5 letters contain a CC pair. > > "y" doesn't count, but fu'ivla can't contain "y" anyway. > > The "5 letter" rule is not very reliable in any case. Some fu'ivla > don't have a CC in the first 5 letters, and some sequences with a CC > in the first five letters are not brivla. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > --001636c5965d61b2270480d61d8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ..... what happened to rigid rules of morphology so that you always know wh= en you're dealing with a brivla vs a cmavo cluster vs. a cmevla vs. etc= ...? =A0

Is there no hope of fixing these exceptions? = =A0It rubs me the wrong way that the logical language would have exceptions= .

2010/3/2 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> oops, my bad. =A0I wondered about that, but I thought that {y} doesn&#= 39;t count
> when looking to see if the first 5 letters contain a CC pair.

"y" doesn't count, but fu'ivla can't contain &q= uot;y" anyway.

The "5 letter" rule is not very reliable in any case. Some fu'= ;ivla
don't have a CC in the first 5 letters, and some sequences with a CC in the first five letters are not brivla.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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