From jjllambias@gmail.com Sat Mar 06 08:10:32 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnwaA-0001iz-6a for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:10:31 -0800 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so3138684bwz.4 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:10:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yPOkRXwImSSytlrMhy+6tjvxmHnMCXFYv5dGZ8tJa4E=; b=ZhN/bkcPJPXjK5MupX3nllj6gfb3hfSIp80V/sz2HTYE2LQhyeadByx55mK5B9Jt03 2gwEiRG5B+tndq1pUEEnTOrNNWXRIhF1IctgScADbkMS/z3G/izuDysPp3wxV0hF2UC1 c7BqrU0ayfjE8wZBbj3mmwj6KPc5FyYf26FiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Koak9F2j/gDz2fbibGmac0y/xrIahPAnYDjog6TTM+3kdHGw1B6998i6DLHICHNyM4 7xDD7ToupbUpNzYhWTbIJjpQWeoOuGuF3tJFBdAz2QK1GZ1EpQU644EWc5dsUipkjHNZ ir8snu6fO4LE2mk7X3PUop1hVQmRlHBHwmriI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.194 with SMTP id p2mr1895215bka.32.1267891818918; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:10:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:10:18 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003060810n97fe8d2g4ecbf679e3592cc4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] la blupinxe nunjamna From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Efrain Caro wrote: > > ci'iroi kukte cai fado du'i lo cevni doi lomi melbi cai mensi iu > (Eternally most tasty you are, like a goddess, my lovely dear sister.) I think "ze'e kukte" or "vitno kukte" would work better than "ci'iroi" for "eternally". "ci'iroi" is "an infinite number of times", so if she tastes good every third time for example, she could still be tasty an infinite number of times. "ci'iroi" might still be a compliment, but I don't know that being tasted so many times wouldn't be perceived as a measure of easy virtue in vampire culture. :) As for "du'i", the most straightforward way of making comparisons in Lojban is to use the comparison predicate as the main selbri: do dunli lo cevni lo ka kukte The problem with "do kukte (mi) du'i ko'a" is that it has (at least) three different interpretations: (1) ko'a dunli lo nu do kukte (mi) (lo ka ce'u carmi) (2) ko'a dunli do lo ka ce'u kukte (mi) (3) ko'a dunli (mi) lo ka do kukte ce'u Now, you could argue that, in this context, (1) can be excluded because "ko'a"="lo cevni", and comparing an event with a deity wouldn't make much sense, and (3) can be excluded because "mi" (or whatever else goes in x2 of kukte) is elided, so that leaves (2) as the only sensible interpretation. I would buy that argument, but just be aware that using comparative shortcuts like that is usually dispreferred in Lojban. > coi se lanzu i co'a sligau (Hello clannies. About to spin.) I would say "pu'o cargau". "co'a" is the actual start, "pu'o" is the "about to" state, And what a wheel usually does is rotate rather than oscilate, but I guess it can oscilate too. mu'o mi'e xorxes