From pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Sun Mar 07 08:12:33 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.220.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NoJ5e-0001Ve-V4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:12:33 -0800 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1374211fxm.26 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:12:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i2RWcRh2ME7ZgiSiZ8yob+qCV3XhN8J4/QE9htthxv4=; b=aItwQ8DZGtWJQm2zC02Fx4MFpbCUQxg+P69+OWzLounKuz9O0W8BiSCIQeIO4fWBLE 5Lwp2pSdcK5XxbaWsdSUITDj9bKqM2ALixZxs9af4y1oPpFLieW3tQzOOOwTTGOfcjci Td5aoDfNg4zZXrSQYNuFJfL4wErhMx6BEF2Xc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OfbE1WQORIlnBIfsRjCXNJDddYuN99IANHIeLmXEk8b71zxEc8OJv0FKy933l3xSoD xBSe70wZ8yFWy66aRpWNq0qRIi6riWSA9XlH2G2yDbsR95Bg9CTmGX7VA5YAVxUNqWdC /yPsJFa0dxswzetwvzQt/PoruR7pGEq/49iA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.17.155 with SMTP id s27mr4504228faa.13.1267978340169; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:12:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17561003070619l4e855e76jc714fab2668536fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17561003060810n97fe8d2g4ecbf679e3592cc4@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003061124m3b04332fqfe9b5e258fb0dff@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003070619l4e855e76jc714fab2668536fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:12:20 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6d721efc32871080 Message-ID: <4de8c3931003070812s660499afl15c1a96936184da6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: la blupinxe nunjamna From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/3/7 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : >> It actually makes no sense to state that a vamp is "tasty" when we >> mean their blood is tasty, but the meaning is understood within the >> game. > > It's metonymy. It's like saying that an orange is tasty, when it's the > edible part that is tasty. But "lo ka ze'e kukte" does not specifically state that what is tasty is the vamp, even though the comparison is made of "do" (the vamp) to "lo cevni", right? The x1 of this "kukte" could be "lo ciblu be ce'u", which wouldn't be metonymy. mu'o mi'e tijlan