From jjllambias@gmail.com Wed Mar 10 15:52:17 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpVhA-0002wA-OT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:52:17 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2431975bwz.26 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:52:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ajrnyNFqEPSzSsAEZbyDznF1xduo4MaKcogWtUS3brs=; b=YnDJin0K7UDJGcgvVSGxcEUvhIfkX5NSgJvWgWyhvflpwGSNO2i5ZbYC7WuET0yYZh jEIOgTj/llFpo7NIc2krkGmbXh+/1YrJYEOoQ9bh6D4gzbNclWSATeUIpVYEnkG2/Qa7 T6UyegXfIvyqTpwheUjz7ZQlx7h0cDqz1sI8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GGU2P5tRRDFjlTJmaD8/ktg/WwHQHhE+x4gxEXDiCZa/W9mudGzE6gqkFtmuOA0EHP fk4dHu4pBDsek9xZY5kB/WTf+uqFcLGDKC44RnnMw/pm79y50Cc4MkXhAtdI7RsMiSKi 7TcejRk8pLPX8LH6j2baOsVogpNNfibFGTDcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.133.27 with SMTP id d27mr2745729bkt.51.1268265121536; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:52:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3931003101546r6520a08dub05eab4c43180616@mail.gmail.com> References: <770382631003082147r56b269a5sde4b108b53beccf1@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931003090344i5aa85659r4e9d50523ac1ddd7@mail.gmail.com> <770382631003100732q4c29c83em14bf94bdb9344e99@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931003101351w18e76ed6n81ab40f3c822a647@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003101407q33e25a40t982226f436e478f2@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931003101546r6520a08dub05eab4c43180616@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:52:01 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003101552l27b74df8k15508e238b29ecf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: looking for new name From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:46 PM, tijlan wrote: > 2010/3/10 Jorge Llamb=EDas : >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM, tijlan wrote: >>> >>> If the name is meant to have two parts, probably "zi'eful.favysejmiv" >>> with an inbetween dot is the safest option in the parser-oriented, >>> formal areas of Lojbanistan. But people (including myself) often opts >>> to omit dots for aesthetic or pragmatic reasons (e.g. "the >>> letter-space is enough for us humans to see the division of words"). >> >> Actually, it's the other way around. The parser only needs a space to >> know that in that context it represents an obligatory pause. The dot >> is optional, and there only for the benefit of the humans, as a >> remainder that they must include a pause there. > > But jbofi'e seems to be as much helped by the dot as by a space when > it's given "iu.ui" at one time and "iu ui" at another time. And: in > the case of "iu.ui", the space is optional; in the case of "iu ui", > the dot is optional. It's the same for cmevla cases like "la > brod.brod"/"la brod brod", "la zi'eful.favysajmiv"/"la zi'eful > favysajmiv", etc. Yes, that's what I said, the parser doesn't care whether you use a dot or a space. The dot is only useful as a reminder for the human reader. mu'o mi'e xorxes