From lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRDNoNreBBoE28KhXA@googlegroups.com Tue Apr 27 00:21:02 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f137.google.com ([209.85.211.137]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6f6E-0004Bd-GX; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:21:01 -0700 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf5505677ywh.28 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5yZPN1i4nMEt6+CZU2xeOX1ujaG/651XdLKeAwHAG9w=; b=SmoTGXq0jCE5I9Ikna6zyxt6QeQq1W2oUJS/Y4dfTJ527DzfGBuuCkDwKSXlAqC5Xl vAvScqJQYw+PQAHb57OrVDpR+YWiJ2uXuuxzJ9O99DGmxpXwFAOMtyfNxTUxPOH4SbYv aRQAqfQhW0lbvBmvFt3+gXu43Mj2dxWmMdgFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=eAVHYLnOe+SuTmzo8MjNY4T4AZjUsEL3hyEI35uqsAsDum1QvVYRRSqN7aZ2TMqdi1 DjMgO76RtAUiOusBMJ+P27orQTt+ccavBIKvVDzg9WrgDME/ImA6WVRCkVmZYs/7bI68 9NZIPfSFMRV0xntCIy7l+S0hpDFGw8oEB06ew= Received: by 10.151.18.3 with SMTP id v3mr990594ybi.62.1272352845707; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.248.9 with SMTP id v9ls39437615ybh.5.p; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.175.7 with SMTP id x7mr3571078ybe.26.1272352844920; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.175.7 with SMTP id x7mr3571077ybe.26.1272352844891; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f209.google.com (mail-gx0-f209.google.com [209.85.217.209]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si597516gxk.7.2010.04.27.00.20.43; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.209 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.209; Received: by gxk1 with SMTP id 1so6105119gxk.16 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.23 with SMTP id k23mr880511anp.160.1272352843629; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.206.6 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:20:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:20:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] enzima & encima etc. From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.209 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c927244606fe048532bb51 --001636c927244606fe048532bb51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought it was palatalization, not velarization. stevo 2010/4/26 tijlan > If I were to Lojbanize Spanish "enzima" and "encima", should I use the sa= me > lerfu for the same sound "z" and "c", resulting in the same spelling? If = so, > which lerfu? > > Also, should the Lojbanization of Russian sounds reflect its velarization > such as in "e" and "=D1", for the purpose of experimental gismu etymology= ? > > mu'o mi'e tijlan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --001636c927244606fe048532bb51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought it was palatalization, not velarization.
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2010/4/26 tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>
If I were to Lojbanize Spanish &= quot;enzima" and "encima", should I use the same lerfu for t= he same sound "z" and "c", resulting in the same spelli= ng? If so, which lerfu?

Also, should the Lojbanization of Russian sounds reflect its velarizati= on such as in "e" and "=D1=8F", for the purpose of expe= rimental gismu etymology?

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