From lojban-beginners+bncCM2f06edBBDkyYbeBBoE8YP-Xw@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 11 03:31:20 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f198.google.com ([209.85.217.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0uRZ-0003Qc-S0; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:31:19 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf1191967gxk.4 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:date :in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:received :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0NDuajXLbW/8yEno5IFL8pyAhIKYBOqSTPSpkB5dG9U=; b=zD/W0sdHQDCLqxPFnXQbkafoGMV6EAJEofDONIxnphQUmiY61kOmq0TaMyJ2MoHXRw q0BozOQsQiY39km7p3Sd3P2GXEwDuPOthEE3qY5OW7POF0pzEnXXHF5q5fW3YYF5Sxhu 6Fpq9NOD1bLwoSOkT53LLzEpOyajaMzWjqX8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=4EtlDCgcpn/Wu5aU2LeV9d/KWdmYDVonujGPMppAKrjUCnwe12DZELpEAqApzHkpwe /Yt75v+9jLObJq8XP0zbwLILv3kIt4FnNfWPefRkb9XgJP6Nx1OMbGAJXZDo62eOX/1U Iq1wygBOUeAvXL6l8sh1xb4HU24tK055Zif4g= Received: by 10.91.91.8 with SMTP id t8mr416107agl.16.1270981860927; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.66.23 with SMTP id t23ls231254agk.6.p; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr2213318agk.1.1270981859945; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr2213316agk.1.1270981859893; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f162.google.com (mail-yw0-f162.google.com [209.85.211.162]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si157945yxe.0.2010.04.11.03.30.59; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.211.162 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of bnansel@internode.on.net) client-ip=209.85.211.162; Received: by ywh34 with SMTP id 34so2409915ywh.15 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201004110516.32188.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-IP: 121.45.91.226 References: <65acaf76-6714-432b-8ffd-c4fcb99a809e@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <201004110516.32188.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_2; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe) Received: by 10.101.175.23 with SMTP id c23mr65574anp.7.1270981859533; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Biting off way more than I can chew -- and loving it! From: Gearhead Shem Tov To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.211.162 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of bnansel@internode.on.net) smtp.mail=bnansel@internode.on.net X-Original-Sender: bnansel@internode.on.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/cb7dd695a460ac23 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/8c77f60c847c9933 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 NQ2: OK, the first full sentence in English and my first crack at the bits of vocab I hazard I'll need, no serious attempt at grammatical construction yet: S1: Martha Dane paused, looking up at the purple-tinged copper sky. L1: martas.dein. [sisti] [catlu--look/observe] [zirpu-- purple] [tunka--copper] [tsani--sky/heavens] From skimming "What is Lojban?" I think I need some sort of logical connection between [sisti] and [catlu] to capture the sequential-ness (how's that for linguistic savvy...) of Martha's actions, but I also suppose I might be able to make a tanru out of [purple-tinged copper sky] just by mooshing them into [zirpu tunka tsani], e.g. a purple- type-of copper-type-of sky. Would this work, or does it do violence to the original English meaning and/or lojban? -Bobby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.