From 3gmXGSwAAEPkmpkcbo-cfhjoofsthpphmfhspvqt.dpn@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 14 18:02:09 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f155.google.com ([209.85.221.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3gmXGSwAAEPkmpkcbo-cfhjoofsthpphmfhspvqt.dpn@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O2DT1-0003WA-3d; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:02:09 -0700 Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27sf982322qyk.22 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=JfcsJM7VJZyKen7gkzchwZsjmbQjtQOOlrSVlWSRGbg=; b=1tjIt3fQogh0T36v5ddqMZZ33qYrpzwJeICL6jvODYdGQCoFJoxYYK1tcN2ttkLCUk 4D426ik5WyuzfxyYTQAMxeIIJJNgjkwkB68Ff4MJcWkIjZG480gCWYqaD3c24WMQvGMU YaCgsSg67C9G+WtNYj6T9srDKkktNAFtzQldc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=fYebOsvhz/Xdut/QeHB69XGacok0+vL7r8Z0WodkaK2spzLp3+64V0sEQS02zffbwY kXBMngiTiz/JbfS1MTpDYd0GWML/R9BCcFHF3WYJCw3TUYHmHDo6OEz+cmJYid2LDRIS njbmsIje4Y0OJ/8vGlOiTQWT/VI4L4kuDmsyg= Received: by 10.224.99.75 with SMTP id t11mr423535qan.12.1271293314664; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.38.138 with SMTP id b10ls292737qae.4.p; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.25.66 with SMTP id y2mr804282qab.14.1271293312972; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.25.66 with SMTP id y2mr804281qab.14.1271293312915; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f68.google.com (mail-vw0-f68.google.com [209.85.212.68]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si201803qyk.8.2010.04.14.18.01.51; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.68; Received: by vws8 with SMTP id 8so44395vws.11 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.167.140 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100407053428.GA9239@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC4403.70007@lojban.org> <4BC655C6.1070403@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:01:49 -0400 Received: by 10.220.93.79 with SMTP id u15mr4722532vcm.81.1271293309508; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Request For Help; non-urgent research request to help Lojban. From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/eb8a3ed85a2128d0 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/c2cfcdbe82447e29 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b81421e5dda04843c0a01 --0016363b81421e5dda04843c0a01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, wouldn't {.e'o morji ko} be "[request] be remembered"? The {ko} fills the x2 of morji since it comes afterwards right? 2010/4/14 Oren > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 07:54, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder > - LLG wrote: > > Oren wrote: > >> pe'u morji ko > > I request, O Rememberer, you (imperatively) .... > > Ah, I meant { .e'o morji ko }, after giving up on figuring out > something like "bump/nudge," in the sense of "don't forget about this > thread." > > I guess I'm uncertain if { ju'i } can be used for this, or if it means > more like 'listen up/pay attention/watch out' > And I feel like using { re'i } might be applicable here (as in "ready > for you to follow up"), but not in general. > Perhaps a lone { ba'e } is the way to go? > > In chinese, a number of attitudinals have particle counterparts, for > example =A7a corresponds with { .e'u }. However, one particle that > Chinese has that lojban doesn't seem to is 'make note/don't forget.' > In chinese it's =AE@/=BE=BE and it's used pretty commonly-- perhaps best > characterized by caring parent-like expressions; i.e. "You'd better > bundle up =AE@." > > I'd imagine that if we had a "reminder" cmavo, putting a nai on it > would mean something like "forget about it/never mind," another pretty > common phrase... how do we say these things in Lojbanistan? > > mi'e korbi .i co'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016363b81421e5dda04843c0a01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, wouldn't {.e'o morji ko} be "[request] be remembered"= ;?  The {ko} fills the x2 of morji since it comes afterwards right?
2010/4/14 Oren <get.oren@gmail.com>
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 07:54, Bob LeCheval= ier, President and Founder
- LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wr= ote:
> Oren wrote:
>> pe'u morji ko
> I request, O Rememberer, you (imperatively) ..= ..

Ah, I meant { .e'o morji ko }, after giving up on figuring out something like "bump/nudge," in the sense of "don't forg= et about this
thread."

I guess I'm uncertain if { ju'i } can be used for this, or if it me= ans
more like 'listen up/pay attention/watch out'
And I feel like using { re'i } might be applicable here (as in "re= ady
for you to follow up"), but not in general.
Perhaps a lone { ba'e } is the way to go?

In chinese, a number of attitudinals have particle counterparts, for
example =A7a corresponds with { .e'u }. However, one particle that
Chinese has that lojban doesn't seem to is 'make note/don't for= get.'
In chinese it's =AE@/=BE=BE and it's used pretty commonly-- perhaps= best
characterized by caring parent-like expressions; i.e. "You'd bette= r
bundle up =AE@."

I'd imagine that if we had a "reminder" cmavo, putting a nai = on it
would mean something like "forget about it/never mind," another p= retty
common phrase... how do we say these things in Lojbanistan?

 mi'e korbi .i co'o

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