From 3XCjHSwgJEJc75K.FI5E7D19C.3FDCFA21E-2579EE5IJ7FF7C57IFLGJ.3FD@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 15 07:53:31 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3XCjHSwgJEJc75K.FI5E7D19C.3FDCFA21E-2579EE5IJ7FF7C57IFLGJ.3FD@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O2QRY-0002hQ-Ul; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:30 -0700 Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32sf367637pvb.16 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=DwzwacbHBL0avGAIVIcAOdWIUO2cEiOqrgaJNAKQOIY=; b=sjnFk9k4OnWhuBbcFgDl8k+tn+xg2zag2eWwnn8TqvwnmDeS/b9qOGWN27lqdj/9wH y4cJynMKRcx9oUdkoKYlJ5ji0pFAVYJuYLridijAykzKbbzn5qqjFXJ7I4lWXEC/FhwP a576Ec3lrOUNY13UWOVcc/SQaBuou4aJYwWk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2XVpNF6tis0RH+goWZDCQvB9XyhMDnPhWQh/nSdyjTA5ZBf6GHASrEyMCN/dZ0eNHe Zze93jJRPDyyOo/JCWcRfcuF/ew99RwPe5ksU1Yh4HJqVlKxFzsMtNA5f8NVKYdKaXvo DTptDz5yyfFaEoOE8q421npBUnDdcNGik3m98= Received: by 10.142.2.13 with SMTP id 13mr16967wfb.28.1271343196748; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9ls617484wfh.1.p; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr44936wfh.15.1271343194526; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr44935wfh.15.1271343194484; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com (mail-pw0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si300469pzk.13.2010.04.15.07.53.13; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.41; Received: by mail-pw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 2so1103401pwi.28 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.109.10 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:52:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Oren Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:52:53 +0800 Received: by 10.143.24.39 with SMTP id b39mr159012wfj.184.1271343193209; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Should I propose an experimental cmavo? (was non-urgent research request to help Lojban.) To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/4b6de8cfaeeca462 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/631689543aa9eaf1 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/4/15 Oleksii Melnyk : > my guess: native jbopre, urged to express some exact attitude, > not yet covered by the vocabulary, will use "sei" or "to", describing it. I'll make note of that. =p > "never mind" is "covered", my only residual query: do you see any "never mind" polysemy here? case 1 A: What was that you just said? B: Never mind. case 2 A: What kind of breaks are the safest? B: Never mind that; just remember to wear a helmet! When you say { ju'inai } covers 'never mind' I agree in case 1, but feel suspicious about case 2, where my interpretation is that the attitudes reflect importance for consideration/remembering of something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.