From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhD-wpDfBBoEoKJJ7Q@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 07:20:00 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OAOPA-0001kl-6i; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:59 -0700 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36sf488082wyb.16 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UXm2LXUHtKmo3lglki3e+TFyh4MTzXrtQ87WSnOhljw=; b=MS3Vdg/0eDVNGLgEit5Fmg4VdenXhKp+0GZyf1XSdgNbDyFgUiYOtGSILTGQLEXcaP 48m5wsRCvFGbQrLlMToOeor/kkdchNAJwnputi0inhQmq9AtkHC7OWL/k0mxdG2YZ3om Xk7fwMHQrqT3Rexy23hMInXvVDokfSSFu/v08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=QrzGhJAhGZSWbcQnHvcFFJ9zqW5Uj0APiCzmP0KwgOXlzBnRiZ9N7dtT1KN+YGVUx0 jXDpMZlTbc5mVzqkhtaInFlMt8hWd14oAKTMbFH1LRj6dKrgqCtOMK9LVxbcCx8+imAI d1ac6M+vN+Hv6AszLnPjz19TRrfgrgqcjrCFk= Received: by 10.223.25.203 with SMTP id a11mr18895fac.1.1273241982044; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.145.167 with SMTP id p39ls2954303wej.0.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.89.19 with SMTP id b19mr7487wef.15.1273241980821; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.89.19 with SMTP id b19mr7486wef.15.1273241980789; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id g1si1831020wbg.6.2010.05.07.07.19.39; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by mail-ww0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 39so694640wwb.41 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.195 with SMTP id c45mr80665wef.98.1273241979589; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.51.7 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2035EAA2-54C5-4259-BC7C-497A1CA2A4F5@mac.com> <201005062111.16127.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:19:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Proposed change to smart.fm items From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99d46e81948048601bfd4 --0016e6d99d46e81948048601bfd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/5/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010 16:22:03 Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >> > Two things: {lo glibau te jimpe /fi/ mi}. Oops. > >> > >> "x1 understands (fi) x3" <- Note that this is part of the official > >> definition, for cases when {lo se jimpe} is elided. > > > > {lo glibau cu te jimpe fi mi}. Without {cu}, {lo glibau te jimpe} is a > tanru. > > It doesn't mean however that you undersatnd something said in English. > It means you understand something said about the English language. > .xorxes., the definition of {ko'a jimpe fi ko'e} is "x1 understands (fi) x3", not "x1 understands /something about/ (fi) x3". So {mi jimpe fi lo glibau} means "I understand the English language". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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2010/5/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>= ;
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010 16:22:03 Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Two things: =A0{lo glibau te jimpe /fi/ mi}. Oops.
>>
>> "x1 understands (fi) x3" <- Note that this is part of= the official
>> definition, for cases when {lo se jimpe} is elided.
>
> {lo glibau cu te jimpe fi mi}. Without {cu}, {lo glibau te jimpe} is a= tanru.

It doesn't mean however that you undersatnd something said in Eng= lish.
It means you understand something said about the English language.

.xorxes., the definition of {ko'a jimpe fi ko'e} i= s "x1 understands (fi) x3", not "x1 understands /something a= bout/ (fi) x3". So {mi jimpe fi lo glibau} means "I understand th= e English language".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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