From lojban-beginners+bncCO_-2v_tAxDb2bngBBoEFK_YHQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 08 09:16:50 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f143.google.com ([209.85.211.143]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OM1Tn-0000yx-2x; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:16:50 -0700 Received: by ywh7 with SMTP id 7sf11337163ywh.26 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:16:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jcPGNT4h44+bcH+F5v2yxsj1J+7RSqzB8Ul1uPyzUXg=; b=xPqUlYmMdB+KmNBmU+1RcvRvmS91xZJCqn3M13unXyZSEa55JoBGV/J68kDjp5jwLq BYiVSrW31cquAV98yNdugA34F6aPDu8fcREyoeZvuqIBNVFxnhiP6ZA6cJCHHaRF1ivl /v6KZ+jT5TzQG7bzDisLcwRrXicwqKvOIzeNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3RefzA2oH0YFzMTV45rz6CV+7os1a6ENk6RDGkUqj47pkg/BY9BeFsqiQxVnyTmF2i DgvknDt7BCM+vBpNtqEoH3UEQAXriny9SKr4rUgxRy3o2QEhwF2m37hojquToQy0QHtD I8JK8lG2+ZkgyZ2bHNulOYEdr06h4i5pDLW28= Received: by 10.150.173.2 with SMTP id v2mr933803ybe.0.1276013787974; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.242.38 with SMTP id p38ls3831616ybh.6.p; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.162.1 with SMTP id k1mr934781ybe.78.1276013785450; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 92.230.249.92 References: <201006062315.53739.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; de) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanic coffee mug From: lubekano3 To: Lojban Beginners Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the answers. Actually, I like it (talking bridi rather than sumti, that is). Given that Cube(a) & Red(a), a speech act along the lines of "Cube" or "Red" does seem more plausible than "a", if being a cube and being red is pretty much what there is to say about a. (Getting metaphysical is not my intention here.) Even though in the above case a is not just a but somebody's a. I'm now going to try and figure out the "ponse" phrase Michael Turniansky has given. (-: -- lubekano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.