From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBDsycrgBBoEUsTKLw@googlegroups.com Fri Jun 11 14:05:00 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ONBPJ-0003N8-KM; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:59 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf2460915gyd.16 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JoNX/JECV7sWVgAif3irMrBIlNZte1jG6PkxrfSeesM=; b=JAjA0iBApQrADxpAHOrhwGC+dJZUuRZXEc05mIi0iRAqztI/6HQV4250GojA2DJwvs fnSLtO8x8m8k4ekhe8uegYoYV5ouWMTZKeoQ1/NouSwky/gyXrbuqjvA6C440O6ZXMBb CmkhJgk+pCXyDgHykGd/RLuv47QJX82rONWK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=gNNHNc4OhTQbT7YWUe3bdvwuaYT7hyKnch4rtey+wB/9C9uSeXJRfIj71H682CpJ4Y 55bA9WyUftvwTSoB1Avy20f9t+T5Wc7RTvDBFQa7IHAORFJICo981ZSnsSEcT2r9nE0z PfhYkkROeWBXRqxVRDxQlPTNngZY48Hg6tC4E= Received: by 10.101.175.14 with SMTP id c14mr189600anp.34.1276290284401; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.145.32 with SMTP id x32ls4256372ann.0.p; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.180.14 with SMTP id h14mr783547anp.15.1276290283822; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.180.14 with SMTP id h14mr783546anp.15.1276290283783; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f170.google.com (mail-gy0-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e5si1238798anb.1.2010.06.11.14.04.42; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.170; Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so1524306gyf.1 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.247.23 with SMTP id u23mr3760556ybh.150.1276290282076; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.212.8 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:04:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Libraries: attempted lujvo coinage From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d012e4baad0488c77c0d --000e0cd5d012e4baad0488c77c0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 why not just use {ckusro} (which already exists in jbovlaste) and {ponse}. {le mi ckule ckusro cu na'e ponse la } Or {ckule be fo mi be'o na ckusro be la } -> [something] is a school of me type of [NOT] library with book . The second example there seems clunky to me. I think the base relationship is {ponse} or something like it. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > I attempted to say something along the lines of: > My university's library does not have . > preferably without having to use {pe}. My attempt was using a somewhat long > lujvo, seljitckusro, which I defined as: > x1 is a library containing books x2 managed by x3. > (The underlying tanru was {se jitro ke cukta sorcu}.) > and then the construction (with the book being the last sumti of the > previous sentence) was: > .i ri na se seljitckusro fi lo balcu'e be fo mi > Does this seem reasonable? I don't have much practice coining lujvo but am > attempting to get better at it. > > mu'o mi'e latros. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000e0cd5d012e4baad0488c77c0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable why not just use {ckusro} (which already exists in jbovlaste) and {ponse}. = =A0{le mi ckule ckusro cu na'e ponse la <a particular book>}
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Or {ckule be fo mi be'o na ckusro be la <a particular= book>} -> [something] is a school of me type of [NOT] library with b= ook <a particular book>.

The second example there seems clunky to me. =A0I think= the base relationship is {ponse} or something like it.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
I attempted to say something along the line= s of:
My university's library does not have <a particular book>= ;.
preferably without having to use {pe}. My attempt was using a somewhat long= lujvo, seljitckusro, which I defined as:
x1 is a library containing books x2 managed by x3.
(The underlying tanru= was {se jitro ke cukta sorcu}.)
and then the construction (with the boo= k being the last sumti of the previous sentence) was:
.i ri na se = seljitckusro fi lo balcu'e be fo mi
Does this seem reasonable? I don't have much practice coining lujvo but= am attempting to get better at it.

mu'o mi'e latros.

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