From lojban-beginners+bncCMqBsa7nERDZsqLhBBoE2MvTmw@googlegroups.com Mon Jun 28 05:45:25 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OTDiD-0003Ps-AP; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:25 -0700 Received: by pvc21 with SMTP id 21sf568773pvc.16 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:mime-version :received:received:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PuDbd+L5Fx/UDDIfmMLT51DsSWz88JH1+R0aHz3gGf4=; b=g5YqNWkyYMoEM2rJ39aYkE6BnEwPRbbMgjZz91c366DJHgKFdKGFStqrIvurZaPg+q efPCDIAuZFUVxn83qpU3oHB4g8QGeVnRLqY2WAq8JuHg/KFb20I7hljSbc8z3taCfV1P +MGfyj3yznjKFTwEWEfkYQpkHSqFn7+A/x/gI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=CjtAHfX3ZMvL+suUcR4q1IRgnoIjUlYa8b26NEcQJvaSgiiIeH8phWqTKxGBDKLyf/ OL0naiIvr0H+nlvYVo20OBnnsQ8spfBefo87vNkbH9gwbwTlXBn1Gi217KPlNBXKWpsR 6q6QBQiG3rkoDUSs4PXrCWernAtOVQQIJqOaI= Received: by 10.142.247.8 with SMTP id u8mr303055wfh.38.1277729113268; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9ls11227150wfh.1.p; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.208.19 with SMTP id f19mr1127697wfg.32.1277729112613; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.208.19 with SMTP id f19mr1127696wfg.32.1277729112574; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (chain.digitalkingdom.org [64.81.66.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p1si2982581rvq.6.2010.06.28.05.45.11; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.81.66.169; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OTDi1-0003Pd-FG for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:10 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OTDhk-0003M8-3D for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:45:09 -0700 Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so680951iwn.40 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.195 with SMTP id a3mr5193544ibz.40.1277729089096; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.15.201 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:44:49 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Adding to Pro-bridi From: Ross Ogilvie To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: oges007@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d26d03798a23048a167c9c --0016e6d26d03798a23048a167c9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey The initial question I was thinking about this afternoon was: is { mo mo } a grammatically bridi. But it went on to be more general than that. Can pro-bridi (and other things like them) be combined with each other and brivla into tanru? eg { ko klama .i sutra go'i } - Go! Quickly! If this is the case, I've seen forms like { na go'i }, so I know that you can add tenses to these things. But when you say { na melbi .i na go'i } the second bridi has the same meaning as the first, with the second { na } 'overwriting' the first. (I recall reading this, but couldn't find where when I quickly checked the obvious places). So then do tanru based around pro-bridi follow the same principle eg { mi sutra cliva .i masno go'i } = { mi sutra cliva .i mi masno cliva } or { mi sutra cliva .i masno sutra cliva } or something else? Thanks Ross Ogilvie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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The initial question I was thinking about this afternoon was: is= { mo mo } a grammatically bridi. But it went on to be more general than th= at. Can pro-bridi (and other things like them) be combined with each other = and brivla into tanru?

eg
{ ko klama .i sutra go'i } - Go! Quickly!

If this is t= he case, I've seen forms like { na go'i }, so I know that you can a= dd tenses to these things. But when you say { na melbi .i na go'i } the= second bridi has the same meaning as the first, with the second { na } = 9;overwriting' the first. (I recall reading this, but couldn't find= where when I quickly checked the obvious places).=A0 So then do tanru base= d around pro-bridi follow the same principle

eg
{ mi sutra cliva .i masno go'i } =3D { mi sutra cliva .i mi m= asno cliva } or { mi sutra cliva .i masno sutra cliva } or something else?<= br>
Thanks
Ross Ogilvie

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