From lojban-beginners+bncCNf8pM-bDBDd1uvhBBoEGoYX2g@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 12 03:17:28 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYG4C-0000PE-UR; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:17:24 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf8820042gxk.16 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=M6d9DbPKzt6QtCZFHJb4/9PylOk6iArcTJQWGHrU/cw=; b=5ZXkY11gScgcbxHgmhOJhnVT7cTWcAGsiDHQmJJYnxMmQ+VDvJo05BVmBozDc65NXZ We9phIOxnB41nIZZURnZZVa7XZ+GxmnExMIjnKLr2j2yESS8fMy1gv1QMnjbhtQyFbGb neJ+eOPZUvK4OdUOnt12QgzPy/6w2AioTNN/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=TNqi1YMzCVR6mH1d9sjuI1vvJr62M4BVteaFdLAqMPlmu7lcCS3zQIsvue+eO0aciz PngyTam9ej3KHGaAFzfg+5Y+uUdecdiFhdrjXU76Yjvgw5GD86J5LYYJWo027NvjwJyS mtGZ8ZK3W9SNFb5VivSqSsu+f091HVynud98U= Received: by 10.90.2.5 with SMTP id 5mr1786513agb.44.1278929757102; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.127.9 with SMTP id e9ls1052504ybn.6.p; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.229.11 with SMTP id b11mr3512282ybh.24.1278929756270; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.157.5 with SMTP id z5mr1017628wbw.22.1278928994238; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.157.5 with SMTP id z5mr1017626wbw.22.1278928994206; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f175.google.com (mail-wy0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m11si1212126wej.7.2010.07.12.03.03.13; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; Received: by mail-wy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 20so3693551wye.20 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.194 with SMTP id p44mr1392556wej.82.1278928992835; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.86.211 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:03:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2ae2e84f-490b-4fb7-92f1-aa719455ea61@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <074b0346-e557-488b-9d69-d1a45146206d@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <201007091959.20585.phma@phma.optus.nu> <2ae2e84f-490b-4fb7-92f1-aa719455ea61@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:03:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Tap 'r' From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de00844f9a8f048b2ddcd3 --0016e6de00844f9a8f048b2ddcd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 July 2010 23:16, Tizz wrote: > For example would I be able to make consonants > palatal before lojban /i/? You would first have to differentiate with your pronunciation between /li/ [l=CA=B2i] & /lii/ [l=CA=B2ji] etc. And people would have to be able to tell that diff= erence upon hearing them without too much effort. I think that's unlikely. So I suggest you keep the consonants flat: /li/ as [li], /lii/ as [lji], etc. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016e6de00844f9a8f048b2ddcd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 11 July 2010 23:16, Tizz &l= t;gymnast.tizzler@gmail.com> wrote:
=C2=A0For example would I be able to make consonants
palatal before lojban /i/?

You would first have to di= fferentiate with your pronunciation between /li/ [l=CA=B2i]= & /lii/ [l=CA=B2ji] etc. And people would have to be able to tell that difference upon hearing= them without too much effort. I think that's unlikely. So I suggest yo= u keep the consonants flat: /li/ as [li], /lii/ as [lji], etc.

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