From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxDx0O7hBBoECaCgqg@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 12 16:43:31 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYSel-0004Zs-MK; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:43:30 -0700 Received: by yxj4 with SMTP id 4sf8942507yxj.16 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=hBf2/UZgnNR7PASWVX3fIf17j5gYPjWeXJb3C8m1+w8=; b=hYkM6YxeFxrnoT911y7mwjau5Do/BHrnjGdpxn+2e2Yhv9QYXdPpcZ7Sv/qaEOCnSQ AWBgFQVHNKZQ4dZ9I1xlsoIfnk7sOqKyTS7gMHhDBYsUDQ3uVv7DCZBFAEDaVftzKOJR aysXt0cMW6MV1IzyYkDAX/dyWO8h3umTKVKss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=aKy7ZzR3oXYyD37dIT6gJ65amRlrESgR3PlIiJxo9su/5+D43aIDSajxfIj6IsQhPE Pixc4atiyQY7P+UI5DQrb1h/5ktOOXw4kfF6XQaJAyUK5JNLtwLiLsxBDm8+Hp+11K7h IIVMIE3Aj9RPm2WQNq1WZkBwj/BXWqxADYtmo= Received: by 10.91.133.13 with SMTP id k13mr1926129agn.33.1278978161940; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls1141748ibg.3.p; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.19.205 with SMTP id c13mr615023ibb.13.1278978160863; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.19.205 with SMTP id c13mr615022ibb.13.1278978160842; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z11si3297559ibb.4.2010.07.12.16.42.40; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=G_3Lv6eeXDodT6IZXg8A:9 a=fL2hlyBc_4GbnR8ldAIG0XDvupsA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:41545] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/26-10662-078AB3C4; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:42:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5136262 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] mutce Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:42:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201007121942.38377.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 12 July 2010 19:08:10 A J wrote: > hi from russia, > > can the notion of MUTCE GLARE TCATI be as LE TCATI CU MUTCE LE GLARE ZO'E, > and what can be for x3 in this case? "a lot of words to learn" as loi valsi > cu mutce le cilre le (?) That should be "mutce le ka glare" or "mutce le ni glare". I'm not sure what the official answer is to x3 of "mutce", but you could say "le tcati cu mutce le ka glare li ma'u" or "... li ni'u". For "I have a lot of words to learn" I'd say "so'i valsi cu se cilre .ei". The construction doesn't translate well. "loi valsi cu mutce" means that the words (considered as a mass; it's not plural, Lojban lacks grammatical number) are very . Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.