From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxC-zu_hBBoEg0K8tA@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 12 21:11:24 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYWq0-0007RF-Mo; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:11:23 -0700 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4sf10307856gyg.16 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=8pMbeXfHsxVYGXH+K8f0TLs3JxMXELYlEZ5anFDYlWM=; b=XQDn+k38HTIkdHxHEZSnJCV+SjVxKRgr6HndArBjhsyU6LKrE6DFBy+Yg5ajYwP0uL JrdqNM8j76Z5w6wYFvngHNHNIny7mkq9mPOFIoDI1u+SuwhRbL6FUvfS7mN8EOpbbVJK EaMsZyfGR98wI0ah9zwZJmr5VGKOowUasOBlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=CPRxksG60TdDNmVjCog35NyTMCWKiNjYDnI6a5m4H+vK6WuLYGNMRnXLK2/Q9Ttcvo 2gZwi31xJmf4HLxuy9dWbVh7v+HjXKTzjmRahKgs3/FogrXoeUVRARI0Wuy97OCde4M1 EnsuSCTG8TWNuD+jxNjLrKBd2QO5zWpxwp6WY= Received: by 10.90.69.20 with SMTP id r20mr1993183aga.9.1278994238503; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls1194925ibg.3.p; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr1768870ibb.16.1278994237582; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr1768869ibb.16.1278994237546; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z11si3436725ibb.4.2010.07.12.21.10.37; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=tPyhTduXPFtgbVmWJe+aAHaHf8D5fQpOUY0Eb4YTRv0= c=1 sm=0 a=txnxSVCq9qQA:10 a=mI6YO6ZdSLUA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=UiO5xn-tbewUv6TBmwUA:9 a=xRudHd_lgHM68Rr6EAc2Xv3VHMwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:40096] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 11/EF-01507-C37EB3C4; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:10:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70CE34C1 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:10:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: mutce Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:10:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201007121942.38377.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201007130010.32094.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 12 July 2010 22:32:22 Lindar wrote: > x2 is an abstraction, so your suggestion doesn't make sense. I figured x3 is the language that the many words are in. How about "tu'a so= 'i=20 valsi"? > Neither of you seem to be familiar with xorlo. > lo is nonspecific, le is something the speaker has in mind. > It sounds unusual if you say "le ka" because it's strange to imagine a > particular kind of hotness the speaker has in mind. It's a particular tea, so it has a particular hotness. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.