From lojban-beginners+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCHwM3hBBoEPM9kmw@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 06 09:55:46 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWBQs-00088N-9y; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:46 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf2124546pxi.16 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:mime-version :received:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wReI9KEGvaA99SmuGJ6+oNHnkc4Qo2oC8g+PPsZCq4A=; b=jUMVKsb/DX0eaFPJ/TJ2bAj101PkXJ9bJO3BPQCs6cOeKr6/2nK2Oju5WiJBquXeEn iLHrFipV+wLNQ/+lAWIHqE/OVyn0DOf8g+wIn6YcdvaIRpGkesca88YEr4V5A9LEB63H tQSKRgiw1e/TVlGeAdiiSsPrreZZrjH2CgdL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZnOcVFuOGpRj1wB9Jkrq5bZ+RwXxvYTA7WdN5aR/AqpamcwI4bD95mNGABNJYb2/t0 f+GKSLES6tRueM2+D2a6np4y0ehjwdh1lhB6kTn1trEQnCwR15Oc95xZRfS1yv3OgqB9 fp24DNy1spUXEu5aPcYfxakzPpJmkvS9aS7EQ= Received: by 10.142.122.20 with SMTP id u20mr293062wfc.30.1278435335093; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.143.21.24 with SMTP id y24ls1643188wfi.1.p; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.215.8 with SMTP id n8mr1024699wfg.32.1278435333568; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.215.8 with SMTP id n8mr1024698wfg.32.1278435333506; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (chain.digitalkingdom.org [64.81.66.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y16si5031346wff.3.2010.07.06.09.55.32; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (google.com: error in processing during lookup of nobody@digitalkingdom.org: DNS timeout) client-ip=64.81.66.169; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWBQg-000889-R2 for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:31 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.161.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWBQc-00087i-5b for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:30 -0700 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1450682gxk.40 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.183.84 with SMTP id cf20mr2902287qcb.75.1278435319234; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.95.13 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:55:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100706164224.GA30521@alice.local> References: <20100302162057.GA14827@alice.local> <20100706004832.GL23879@digitalkingdom.org> <20100706164224.GA30521@alice.local> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:55:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo do ckiku ma zvati From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com, lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=temperror (google.com: error in processing during lookup of nobody@digitalkingdom.org: DNS timeout) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Alan Post wro= te: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 05:48:32PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> 4. =A0What's with all the {cu} and {vau}? =A0Seems unnecessarily >> complicated. > > On IRC, I was told (I think by xorxes) that it is standard procedure > to teach newbies all the elidable terminators and only after > practicing with them begin to practice without them. Definitely not by me. I don't really have any insights as to what is best for teaching, but text with elidable terminators not elided always strikes me as very weird. > It didn't quite fit my own intuition, but I was trying to adopt the > best practice we've discovered for teaching Lojban. =A0I'm happy to > discuss this. =A0It may turn out there isn't concensus on which is > best. That's probably the case. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.