From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxCU__3iBBoEG0UyDA@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 08 21:10:37 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OiJh3-0005Ze-ON; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:10:37 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf21629745gxk.16 for ; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:10:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=HyE8UyIfWqt/EBdR+yzVinAjP4aPA7zSlFGuVtCz738=; b=7LDOnxFpKcMcTAueGuQEqgV52/ROfEK+Wyp1o9G2Ie9s+/bOQHXyTAnZbeyLMxBrjz 8okyVyqKJQCThVo3U1uHESmfcRq2fSuIU3r+Iv/yl0coyDNHTQ1OiWN/IlMNfue3+Ehm 4DgBqDJj39Yc/fXnpLiKu9b2YTxaNTWrOH34M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=5/o8NrkpiB/EkfnIaxRv1hNRHEjX5e0YO/9NBroBWnH/3DL+JtSh3/Itcx938PvqzM 8hruhNBf6WYCm3ANqlgWgNwEDDqdqerPjuWs/D7oqPUYKFzeXM/qfNMNTOLWIL6yjTsN f86QzwLN2FcZ1Gs6GT4j67nIdZztrJ2v8yff0= Received: by 10.90.79.11 with SMTP id c11mr2817729agb.37.1281326996422; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls2066539ibr.1.p; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.1.205 with SMTP id 13mr1521158ich.9.1281326995626; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.1.205 with SMTP id 13mr1521157ich.9.1281326995610; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si2952315ibb.5.2010.08.08.21.09.55; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XXdbi/b60h1aHGKgZJQtFDgFv5mfg/3/ZtEWBleeTtY= c=1 sm=0 a=MuUC9ZfnKzQA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=5oRvdL36LScZwaUFO8MA:9 a=cHtYzjr6llScXvrjrQai5-3TIv8A:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:59149] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id FE/D1-03152-29F7F5C4; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2C3C28 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 00:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "and" question Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 00:09:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201008090009.47005.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 08 August 2010 17:42:31 Jonathan Jones wrote: > I believe they're called IJEKS. Do a search for "JA*" on this page: > http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo_selmaho_order.txt > > .ipu mi klama lo zarci .ije la.salis. bazi te vecnu lo finpe That means "Before me, goes to a store." You mean "puku mi klama lo zarci" or "mi pu klama lo zarci". The right way to imply that they are related is ".ibo", but I usually just say ".i", which happens to sound like the word for "and" in both Spanish and Russian. "mi'a klama le zarci .ibo la salis. terve'u lo finpe" mu'omi'e .pier. -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.