From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBDZmv7iBBoEaizSgw@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 08 22:09:20 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OiKbs-00005h-TD; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:09:20 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf21706093gxk.16 for ; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:09:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Rwrn7imB/+e3kyjvpFiNB/b4ygYwAYNVF+OAOSho07s=; b=FwOo946Bb2WY2LB+Jzt2WhdjsvHlzeXFRc9+qwyk0u4nx/qkPfVc/Uy1RPYHXa/sXo wLYWNlTm7Ie4LXY3gqrV3EZA9z30siMhW1w3rmtDnnf/SLPrJ9ZL1dnxA5cP5Cn3HhjO dvtddvECGUljXEU9I8Z59CdqfFng9b9H7xBWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=WB3J788LpO983JtqvWbgP2hacGNcwvHzu6z2IWD1gJP3dM+Xai48cRd0EorwaqtM1Y ZJWEr2csR+oSZ8CBewku5iaVMl7ROdaXHk8MPVE0JcmYc6wWlY2LqI8pGidG3/RM20xa yu5aQEkbrH1fuD76Fh+X0Gkq3M1pnxvTCdY/s= Received: by 10.229.131.129 with SMTP id x1mr1536799qcs.3.1281330521224; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.207.84 with SMTP id fx20ls2404405qcb.0.p; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.28.67 with SMTP id l3mr655502qcc.12.1281330520440; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.28.67 with SMTP id l3mr655501qcc.12.1281330520409; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 2si2688121qci.2.2010.08.08.22.08.39; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.176; Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so10113911qyk.14 for ; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.167.133 with SMTP id q5mr9158508vcy.254.1281330519099; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.96 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Aug 2010 22:08:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201008090009.47005.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201008090009.47005.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 01:08:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "and" question From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646982c6e47ad048d5d02b3 --0016e646982c6e47ad048d5d02b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ta'o I don't get your sig in that email pierre... /-// = 1 ?! On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 08 August 2010 17:42:31 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I believe they're called IJEKS. Do a search for "JA*" on this page: > > http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo_selmaho_order.txt > > > > .ipu mi klama lo zarci .ije la.salis. bazi te vecnu lo finpe > > That means "Before me, goes to a store." You mean "puku mi klama lo zarci" > or "mi pu klama lo zarci". > > The right way to imply that they are related is ".ibo", but I usually just > say ".i", which happens to sound like the word for "and" in both Spanish > and > Russian. "mi'a klama le zarci .ibo la salis. terve'u lo finpe" > > mu'omi'e .pier. > -- > li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016e646982c6e47ad048d5d02b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ta'o I don't get your sig in that email pierre...

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= On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Sunday 08 August 2010 = 17:42:31 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I believe they're called IJEKS. Do a search for "JA*" on= this page:
> http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/c= mavo_selmaho_order.txt
>
> .ipu mi klama lo zarci .ije la.salis. bazi te vecnu lo finpe

That means "Before me, goes to a store." You mean "puk= u mi klama lo zarci"
or "mi pu klama lo zarci".

The right way to imply that they are related is ".ibo", but I usu= ally just
say ".i", which happens to sound like the word for "and"= ; in both Spanish and
Russian. "mi'a klama le zarci .ibo la salis. terve'u lo finpe&= quot;

mu'omi'e .pier.
--
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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