From lojban-beginners+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDAlrPkBBoEwpR7vA@googlegroups.com Sun Sep 12 05:45:42 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oulvq-0005OW-P6; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:45:41 -0700 Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6sf2218047vws.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=39xyyeXVPD60I17fJxHDjbCbeVkkGwQARZNJW2/JbxY=; b=M13JOsE9Kclh6gWUpS/4eCnht0av6w+1KL2XM1tP8SvAj43+T6VsqUqtgpqj/xJaHb yHAUpTQSWPKElLysPh2O02U/HHQXqPAT0/FVj0PlWhGPbHA+pleO1fgyLRdLOwwbpgRP 89hySuRcZ2OVq6c0gSKoFp+wvEKa6x6FXQVfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=SZcWmRq8cfW/5jPomgIzPaKzRQ8Om6ESkL2n23Y0f4QgC36NOmkL2eYoiuEWm2EK63 MobLaWQ+ZkNVPOgqOcDQ44MMdKAIGxfTUIn4yN803b4WdFD2/hpqTv94VUVv7wYnmLtA q4roEnMIudqyOgMK9GlcPf6uCkpW1HHT/+ciM= Received: by 10.220.123.103 with SMTP id o39mr139673vcr.15.1284295488942; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.70.31 with SMTP id b31ls2259641vcj.0.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.194.8 with SMTP id dw8mr760073vcb.27.1284295487756; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.194.8 with SMTP id dw8mr760072vcb.27.1284295487726; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si573378vcm.3.2010.09.12.05.44.46; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.175; Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so976841qyk.6 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.127.196 with SMTP id h4mr1973478qas.180.1284295486351; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.69 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:44:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] merli From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a doubt on "merli" : x_1 (agent) measures/evaluates x_2 [quantity] as x_3 units on scale x_4 (si'o), with accuracy x_5. My bad English is at fault here. is it "mi merli re" in the sense of "I measure (something) and I get 2 as result" or is it "le karce merli re" in the sense of "the car measures 2 [meters]" If it's the former I would expect x_2 to be the measured object and not a quantity. Also I don't get x_3 at all! If it was: x_1 (agent) measures/evaluates the object x_2 and gets as result x_3 units on scale x_4 (si'o), with accuracy x_5. It would be much clearer to me. Any suggestion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.