From lojban-beginners+bncCNCCoMTMDhCN1M7kBBoEHZPOgA@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 17 10:49:35 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Owf3z-0007gL-48; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:35 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf536387wyb.16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5JAtlIWH6PJCFcfU7q+czNLRBjXY9RhLNbqUARpqHdE=; b=wVW3bui55Lm+3Y/rmMeyjmnGslt2+SHFta0FPhNi4LwVp3IuRmzucIokbdr9S110By oSOp9uEta8eQPFRt40yBe2wsHPKXtMRiFlLYjVQynfZhkzeIaPjhaFlPsfzMXWnj9ldz MCk8OtAXyhw7s710cmFyBhVyDH940am+JPMTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=V7dpLbQq9SrxsIzkp6WB4/LfUAWshsnxiPsyJpGmMYVU6sfqqCam+n2HZ7bIWCm6ch LCPvXLQvI7zqyZBXJ/IggaJ+u0s71HwRfeTF5ZpkGpprcH1unU+vUMVq5WmMem2zddRI X/XWsx3Bed3PBHVbvybAUUbSPkNrSGD9mUcnU= Received: by 10.216.145.165 with SMTP id p37mr1191278wej.28.1284745741544; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.165 with SMTP id y37ls1594938weq.1.p; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.144 with SMTP id v16mr280709wed.12.1284745740526; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.144 with SMTP id v16mr280708wed.12.1284745740496; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r4si1477943wec.6.2010.09.17.10.48.59; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.178; Received: by wyb42 with SMTP id 42so3507650wyb.37 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.4 with SMTP id i4mr4521776wbs.106.1284745739332; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.149.67 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:48:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100917161424.6457af0a.kfa@gmx.net> References: <20100917161424.6457af0a.kfa@gmx.net> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:48:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Reusing ke'a? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > > Can I reuse ke'a in a subsequent bridi to avoid a longer or repetitive > pro-sumti construction? Nope. If you don't want to bother with a "goi", the shortest ways to grab something a little ways back are the alphabet method, or ri/ra, or try just a blank space!! If you're in a hurry, a blank space is almost always the way to go. Don't underestimate what people can figure out, in English it's always just "it" or "that" which is basically a freaking blank space-- those could mean anything! OR, another idea occurs to me: Don't even use another bridi: "zo'e co'e zo'e noi co'e zo'e fa ke'a noi zo'e co'e lo nu co'e ke'a" then you CAN reuse "ke'a", because you've started a new "noi"!! :D I gave you just want you wanted, I deserve a prize, I will now reward myself with breakfast. mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.