From lojban-beginners+bncCM6-0ebTBhCW8M7kBBoEQK0Iaw@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 17 11:49:27 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Owfzv-0002aS-IT; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:49:27 -0700 Received: by ywp4 with SMTP id 4sf485259ywp.16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:49:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:x-authenticated :x-provags-id:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ygaZm7/NDx+UbMWxaR5kh8pEoJC3sJVTUecjochhQus=; b=r8pel+k6lJc/gAM0XPE8TSHOonbmnrLPADXTnTp6RkpeDEQBYQMIJSYC03ahZFoYbG 9+Mv1H2KhTh6SY+Z7WXuMzKOjlITB/62UZcXUTVcPi0FsWD4+8wufDT9boS6csMSD4wF 5gx6tpvQhSQsJt0VLXcGF1CRQjHzai+5MEsbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:date:from:to :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=y/WEO0md7vOae/ENzxi4cbEGSCKg6lPjUj6QeV6psJ5sNQyV8rakO8VjqtzwRvbMJ+ QMJLgWxLK6Wm+RBQ5fNaQqmCvfHa2LhnvpPC9NMsBZcSVu7qF9M9QzYMCXWnxoc0aVUX 0Hk+PSjFvlMpUv8N92y+ut2gaaiI3iM5s7MBk= Received: by 10.91.16.10 with SMTP id t10mr657129agi.9.1284749334423; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:48:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.63.6 with SMTP id l6ls934054yba.5.p; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.198.16 with SMTP id v16mr1475835ybf.13.1284749333921; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.85.89 with SMTP id n25mr325882bkl.20.1284747120614; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.85.89 with SMTP id n25mr325881bkl.20.1284747120579; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id z25si2512707bku.5.2010.09.17.11.12.00; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of kfa@gmx.net designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2010 18:11:59 -0000 Received: from f051081192.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO User-PC) [78.51.81.192] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 20:11:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #370125 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1931fgSWrV3abNsK3ZDRx6cF1Yblw+53xyGQZf7Ld Crv2viJrBHVBna Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:11:49 +0200 From: kfa@gmx.net To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Reusing ke'a? Message-Id: <20100917201149.cbbcf64a.kfa@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20100917161424.6457af0a.kfa@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: kfa@gmx.net X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kfa@gmx.net designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kfa@gmx.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:48:29 -0400 Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > > > > Can I reuse ke'a in a subsequent bridi to avoid a longer or repetitive > > pro-sumti construction? > > Nope. If you don't want to bother with a "goi", the shortest ways to > grab something a little ways back are the alphabet method, or ri/ra, > or try just a blank space!! If you're in a hurry, a blank space is > almost always the way to go. Don't underestimate what people can > figure out, in English it's always just "it" or "that" which is > basically a freaking blank space-- those could mean anything! > > OR, another idea occurs to me: Don't even use another bridi: "zo'e > co'e zo'e noi co'e zo'e fa ke'a noi zo'e co'e lo nu co'e ke'a" then > you CAN reuse "ke'a", because you've started a new "noi"!! :D I gave > you just want you wanted, I deserve a prize, I will now reward myself > with breakfast. > > mi'e la stela selckiku > mu'o > Should've checked my mail before sending off the previous response to xorxes' information. Yes, you deserve your prize. :D ki'esai mu'o mi'e la feliks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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