From lojban-beginners+bncCO-q2omxARC21ZjkBBoExgIG4A@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 07 05:06:58 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oswwp-0005WD-B3; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:06:56 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf8455609gwb.16 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received :mime-version:received:received:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3XGsm3xJzj3GSLWc0NLVHC3/S8Ak5Uy3dT+Qa7HPlGQ=; b=lxDtwghVq4gz+ac2/1zi2NlAvA3+6x/0F6Wk26lRqnllFGo2z+oAcyfKphC6jwjrYd Zh7l4BYqRc5F0ptaebMSJdha130NRbEB+6x26ukChXmfaPmA8eKOFL5Y/pIaNr31UB3b J8a/ddnuf/+uohaFYZp7D7/sH/a3UJSijCT6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=U+zv/C+aH33lcDeT2sq9axnK1D053eGKL67VpNFrBql5jqqy5rbHK4j42h5u023Wdl +SMn+nvdkfaLFZosfJA0a5AaqDLTZNsWtzbbQOzA5OqLWLNCOWrJ0YYzVH14zb/SsPCY QPQw8Pe2LcNtAczWqltN9gqNt/xj6TGVbR1Dw= Received: by 10.91.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr994078agn.54.1283861174683; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:06:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.127.4 with SMTP id e4ls1869943ybn.7.p; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.4 with SMTP id x4mr697628ybx.12.1283861063630; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:04:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.180.39 with SMTP id h39mr303023anp.70.1283802605785; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 86.74.92.146 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <59ca95ff-dab4-4899-97b6-d26dd2352de5@l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] About reading speed of lojban text. Compared with natlang's text. From: "spermwhale.warrior" To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone ! I'm not fluent in lojban at all, but I like study its linguistic properties. I wondered something ... With such an high syllables's rate (I ask the rather fluent speakers/writers among us), comparing two short text, with typical constructs we use every day, such as : comparatives, conditionnals, vocatives, citations from someone else, simples logical links between otherwise independent sentences. One in lojban ... and one in english, or any langage you are the most fluent in. The two text written with the same look towards semantic details, except when (whatever is considered as) evidents inferences from context can be made. My question is the following : are you able, to read the lojban piece of text speedier than or as speedily as the chosen natlang piece of text ? Or not ? Does lojban's preciseness and accuracy towards semantic content of its constructs make it inherently long-winded ? ps: I am fluent only in French, and as you know French guys are the worst students in foreign languages of the EU. If you wince in reading me, please remember it ! Thank you, Mehdi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.