From lojban-beginners+bncCO2N0YfCFhCb-6jkBBoEiAfQdg@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 10 07:16:28 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4Ou-00048z-T6; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:16:28 -0700 Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12sf2744421qyk.16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DFAaPujhEesL8npAIUEGvKHaLKT5F+tGUDultJRne/w=; b=wHI+ismPKLK4rFF+/HdK21sehvMysImCdMUQlXewTYoBPjIqTQG8eUnv3AK2IKimxZ RWgec9IrUgOSsI+CAm2N8jbNLWTAgCbGRjZNtM2cNxp+Es9xYspZvhjBSkdQI161C0LT CE5d6kiwObFFJ/yvZWrpmzbraYm+Otl+dEIqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Z4kJHFPliQqbRzg8s17vNlbDrlzCyySvq7st6jW2rSe1UT5H6bzOCoWN9VhAavJcO3 1CMDHchPeDi+O9Gi82ZjVlMzXHx/46ZEJ260KX/E93i++cnKrs+wr3MtQo496lAvbLUi oNbZSDm14A5AJDLD3wVakVie6H1k7JPmcCKsQ= Received: by 10.229.107.4 with SMTP id z4mr30137qco.42.1284128156166; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.207.1 with SMTP id fw1ls2985970qcb.1.p; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.191.137 with SMTP id dm9mr61415qcb.17.1284128153764; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.191.137 with SMTP id dm9mr61414qcb.17.1284128153715; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from li60-119.members.linode.com (li60-119.members.linode.com [97.107.130.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id mz6si1367807qcb.13.2010.09.10.07.15.53; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=97.107.130.119; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=[IPv6:::1]) by li60-119.members.linode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4OP-000758-31 for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:15:53 +0000 Message-Id: <1BEBA582-71AD-4E22-A69F-7CF9E110F97B@switchb.org> From: Kevin Reid To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo la me no da Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:15:52 -0400 References: <4C88FE19.3010505@gmail.com> <4C891A69.1070507@gmail.com> <4C89F785.4060902@gmail.com> <4C89FDDE.8050508@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:09, Luke Bergen wrote: > {du} has always kind of confused me. How does it function? Is it a > selbri? Does it behave like a relative clause? A kind of > abstractor? Is it it's own grammatical construct? It is just a selbri. You can use it anywhere you can use a brivla; it just happens to be morphologically a cmavo. The meaning of "du" could have been given to a gismu instead; it was just decided that this word should be especially short. Grammatically, {du} is in selma'o GOhA; the other members of GOhA are the selbri-position special words like {mo} and {go'i}. -- Kevin Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.