From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLxbPlBBoEqdpS5Q@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 06 13:58:18 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3b42-00074O-BE; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:58:18 -0700 Received: by yxs7 with SMTP id 7sf6147278yxs.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Bl2CDpLDnF2VfIu9lPyHcjiul7qVqfBvpu8Z4WNZo1o=; b=sH3A9Xc7SorUGNOoDGBa2uCSf+LihPF5yhoAq81nnXMeEXMQhq0FIIHxReR/BxmDxB LlrVgflvAlRgnCwpCobRQEr3IjFEffAMg4kVzvN/KGj3SVb2z449INFobKh0PYDNmfFA GVcKXc2l50uoTycuc6XyKYlHEJ9kDez0kH5w8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=deIWMef1T+K+RwtvjfZ8HHOKLGLAtv760chEGHHPBSJjUbaxQzrzhg5NCcZCDU9m0p AdzbEew6w2ALG1bMEHZIsaduDwBvFJyXgoh4AEIBWd7+rLsd4CSFlAfK3inwW2VNiMYS nQpvYLXVm9iSDvp7QL30B/qbmcb3btQfafmT0= Received: by 10.91.105.9 with SMTP id h9mr140018agm.29.1286398667714; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.196.65 with SMTP id ef1ls344718ibb.0.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr3595991ibd.4.1286398667101; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr3595990ibd.4.1286398667034; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si813695ibc.4.2010.10.06.13.57.46; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by mail-iw0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 39so11753948iwn.12 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.40.3 with SMTP id i3mr14523785ibe.66.1286398663766; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:57:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:57:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255749266658c60491f90797 --0003255749266658c60491f90797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Adam Lopresto > wrote: > > > > broda: x1 is the x2th day of week number x3 of year x4, under > > calendar/system x5 > > brode: x1 is the x2th day of month number x3 of year x3, under > > calendar/system x5 > > That makes a lot of sense. > > > Months, we'd > > have to convert a little, though, so there might be issues there. > > Yeah, I don't think that brode could be the basis for month names, > since it's basically about days of the month, not about months. > > > Or maybe > > the x2 place of brode doesn't belong there, and the rest need to be > shifted > > over. > > Or maybe add a third: > > brodi: x1 is the x2th month of year x3, under calendar/system x4 > > > I'm nearly certain that the weekday approach is right. I'd like to see > > proper fleshing out of the months, but I think starting from here is > *much* > > better than trying to shoehorn things into {djedi} and {masti}. > > I agree. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > I like this idea. Actually, I think works much better than any proposal to date. I would suggest that, instead of having the broda brode and brodi, to have broda, brodi, and rodbrodi for brode instead. Furthermore, I suggest {detla} for broda, with the rafsi {dle}, which I do not believe is taken yet, for {pavdle}, etc., and {masla} for brodi, with the rafsi {msa}, assuming that's a valid rafsi, which I doubt, which yields {dlemasla} for brode. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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2010/10/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= ;jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote: >
> broda: x1 is the x2th day of week number x3 of year x4, under
> calendar/system x5
> brode: x1 is the x2th day of month number x3 o= f year x3, under
> calendar/system x5

That makes a lot of sense.

> =A0Months, we'd
> have to convert a little, though, so there might be issues there.

Yeah, I don't think that brode could be the basis for month names= ,
since it's basically about days of the month, not about months.

> Or maybe
> the x2 place of brode doesn't belong there, and the rest need to b= e shifted
> over.

Or maybe add a third:

brodi: x1 is the x2th month of year x3, under calendar/system x4

> I'm nearly certain that the weekday approach is right. I'd lik= e to see
> proper fleshing out of the months, but I think starting from here is *= much*
> better than trying to shoehorn things into {djedi} and {masti}.

I agree.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

I like this idea. Actu= ally, I think works much better than any proposal to date. I would suggest = that, instead of having the broda brode and brodi, to have broda, brodi, an= d rodbrodi for brode instead.

Furthermore, I suggest {detla} for broda, with the rafsi {dle}, which I= do not believe is taken yet, for {pavdle}, etc., and {masla} for brodi, wi= th the rafsi {msa}, assuming that's a valid rafsi, which I doubt, which= yields {dlemasla} for brode.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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