From lojban-beginners+bncCICntNPQBRDPjbjlBBoEJFuPZA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 10:44:11 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3uVk-00045f-DI; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:44:10 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf29898pzk.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hJrlUINyPvsazsOfs2n6td5aAAbLu/s2eyhBV5/n5Eo=; b=VNIRfM66rlSleHXAlJ/hxZn9EQGciaRokX51Wd084Xb8JSNUludqbSsbdbp5tEJA2Q nWNBN0WZzC1woQ3zfgjnyGwTIC4ZAPpEOzc/uuqV+4xkLzlv+FVnMetvHI/vil3ryStW RbeV5eniwGbZFJjCF5+M4FcPyjQkAJHzwmzxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=CJBVHq9KNfIcIhz2PoFL75gdQNyeeo+yX/6IBaUPv9hk9UjzGbHqJ4WY8lpS5B7HaC FjkvNp7dS0fWhMgVjsNn6HkpInK8Y52AxAZvYeg+0qHHAJ/huk6IHneQ2b7OgPZhIg5S 0zpkbqU+6txDSxIDlRkUknqtKeDAtN1zMD1KE= Received: by 10.142.152.27 with SMTP id z27mr51756wfd.33.1286473423879; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.117.2 with SMTP id p2ls330415wfc.1.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.20.28 with SMTP id x28mr54135wfi.61.1286473423213; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.135.217.193 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100915 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <8f888ac5-85a5-45d2-92af-93acb1d0024c@p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. From: Lindar To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > IMO "day of week" is not a kind of "-dei/djedi", but a kind of "detri". "... =D > at DayOfWeek ..." is "... de'i SOMETHING ...". Do we really have a "logical" > use case for "Monday" itself, without any event to attach "de'i X" to? Dunno, but I like that cmavo. > Moreover, "detri" implies the cultural bias(at x4), so, we can use any > "foreign" day of week names. And consider "de'i li PA" to be the most > neutral way of weekday naming. Agreed! > And so for the month names. "January" is something near "de'i li pi'epa" (or > pi'epi'epa, depends on x4 of detri) Double agree! I honestly think the x1 should change depending on the calendar. If we're using a fixed calendar, it should be day, week, month, year. (first day of second week of first month = 8th of Jan.) If we're using the calendar I'm used to, probably should be either (day of week | day of month | month of year | year) or (day of month | month | year) as that would be "Monday the 15th of January, 2010" and "The 15th of January, 2010" respectively. We could also have archival dating, wherein it starts (year | month | day) and mark that with the x4. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.