From lojban-beginners+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCixdzlBBoEA-3yZA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 08:36:08 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Pqf-0005AM-1O; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:36:08 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf2277805wwe.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kgWIRUwioNtVyG5dwTm4vxjTYk9SvqAPO3YV+7N/jMc=; b=glOO257oU1zR8lRGqXtd0tsdMGH+Qc3u6cJCV+kuCZOucADM6DAGJST8DXC2r4BoSC EpZ5k1729fXrstYICyDLADnmzkoiY6AMisxP0jzPfjGxRq6SYiWmtt1x0B6byUi7PttA QEVr3NurVExE8zO9tPgVuHOgEvvmfGQmkNoPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DjJEGqLold2fZ6rLRHWS6M0ZgOYY2p+MAGG/NPls1bIPixMiNiCWILHszq3K+hKQ6n 9vuIrM8X+bORmIgvdcn73I19HLxuQRXQlS/qNzFP60noF8nfJGr7p+Gay/h7ngYhOSvf XnMT4fzpSAbjaVVnlDHrTmIylg7W8kctVsqao= Received: by 10.216.240.140 with SMTP id e12mr276164wer.15.1287070370616; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.213.1 with SMTP id z1ls1107988weo.1.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.69 with SMTP id k47mr370264wed.3.1287070369348; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.69 with SMTP id k47mr370263wed.3.1287070369286; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com (mail-wy0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l2si887965weq.5.2010.10.14.08.32.48; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.174; Received: by mail-wy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 28so2229438wyb.19 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.7 with SMTP id m7mr10501359wbs.44.1287070366749; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB71879.3060409@lojban.org> References: <20101014012330.GS24066@digitalkingdom.org> <912647ad-7dcf-4de6-86d8-9df0e974973a@x42g2000yqx.googlegroups.com> <4CB71879.3060409@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:32:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A friggin' proposal. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > Theodore Reed wrote: >> >> 13:27 < treed> I'm past wanting to tinker with the language. I'd like to >> just be able to use it and not have to worry that some asshat's going to >> come along and dick with my shit. ma fanta lo nu do ca'a go'i .i xu lo do kalci cu tai ruble ja'e lo nu na kakne lo nu ri bandu ri lo nu gunta fa lo pinji >> 13:28 < treed> If it weren't for outstanding broken bullshit, I'd just >> suggest that we declare the time for tinkering over. >> 13:29 < treed> And ignore the tinkerers henceforth. do nau zifre lo nu toljundi lo tiknei .i do na nitcu lo nu lo drata cu curmi .i .e'e ko zukte fi'o mapti lo se krici be do > We did declare the time for tinkering over. =A0Back in 1997 wen CLL came = out. > =A0It became the current language baseline. .i ku'i ui nai co'a la'e di'u do ji'i no roi pilno lo bangu > I have been saying the above since then. =A0xorlo was approved anyway. .i .au do cusku bau lo jbobau .e nai lo glibau .i li'a no da jundi lo se cusku be bau lo glibau zo'o > Unfortunately, the tinkerers have a different concept of what constitutes > "outstanding broken bullshit" than you and I do. =A0Because we haven't go= tten > the BYFY project done, we can't redeclare the baseline, and the proposals > keep coming. da poi punji lo tutci lo jarco canko gi'e manci catlu ty gi'e no roi pilno ty cu na se vajni lo du'u xu kau lo tutci cu xamgu banzu lo nu pilno .i da poi ca'a pilno lo tutci cu djica lo nu cikre kei ca lo nu da jinvi lo du'u ty na xamgu banzu > We really have to finish defining the current language. =A0Then decide if > anything is broken enough to be worth fixing. =A0Then fix it and be done. ma'a noi vasru ba'e do cu nitcu lo nu pilno lo bangu .i ro drata cu mleca la'e di'u lo ka vajni > Then the tinkerers can be successfully ignored. do djica u'i mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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