From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDn293lBBoE4R2U1w@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 13:54:28 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Uoi-0007E5-Cv; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:54:27 -0700 Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6sf99157gxk.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dlTiNvghP27CP7OCCpXw2xevIJCldPaQZ13h818dCfo=; b=jneU2bpbcAX7CTP9zMXqwhrvM/fB4xG/h1ry/4UkHkI1J2upEUUBX9rUd2xqFOTNF5 xmE1MpWBuiCcJRC/HvESkf8ITOWQmDqUW66cYImjnxTlRA06mPcYc5tyLh6cCiKw96dh t5r43oT1HTZqlcTudMtrqZhjDpogLgG5e2ET8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=kMd809e1ZUfcNMFaelmTdyNR2aaq64WUwXbZEpD2PD0OQyr3co+BDHsQD6Vg0o13ox 2JBYJZ6CBpV3MyDXxwOtbY0J/ZL+8ZIOUDNzTgpLXp+8eWHspSEN0QLZuLNRktzifKIU otTOKTsXJKNNHWAGHCjE2Ihv5QRnzgei/1vgE= Received: by 10.236.109.1 with SMTP id r1mr263237yhg.29.1287089639891; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls1872857ibg.3.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.71 with SMTP id cf7mr3788925ibb.17.1287089639226; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.71 with SMTP id cf7mr3788923ibb.17.1287089639179; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com (mail-iw0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si7162697ibb.3.2010.10.14.13.53.58; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-iw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 4so29255iwn.10 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.10 with SMTP id w10mr8946655iby.106.1287089634721; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101014031348.GT24066@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20101014012330.GS24066@digitalkingdom.org> <20101014031348.GT24066@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:53:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A friggin' proposal. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d26cc878bedb049299e8c0 --0016e6d26cc878bedb049299e8c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:02:17PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > .i.ienaicai .i lu lo verba cu cusku lu .i viska lo melbi .yyyy. > > li'u .i lo vy. mamta cu cusku lu toldi li'u li'u mupli loka xamgu > > na nabmi .i le vanbi be le cusku cu ro roi ralju .i le do cusku > vanbi mupli cu mutce rirci .i lo nu galfi la .lojban. cu na sarcu > > > *And this discussion doesn't belong here.* > > pe'i le mriste po by fy cu drani > > -Robin > Okay, everybody, read that. Again. Especially the part that's bold, italic, and underlined. Did you read it? Good. Now kill this thread. Secondly, this is not a real proposal. I honestly thought people would be able to tell, considering the use of the word "friggin'", which is not language that would ever be used in a serious proposal. And even if it were a serious proposal, it wouldn't change the language in any case. The point of the "Friggin' Proposal" was to vent some of my frustration as the needlessly long and many times painful debate over the concept of 'text' that has been going on on the BPFK list since the 9th. Counting today, that's nearly a week of wasted energy that could've been spent doing BPFK work. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:02:17PM -0600, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> .i.ienaicai .i lu lo verba cu cusku lu .i viska lo melbi .yyyy.
> li'u .i lo vy. mamta cu cusku lu toldi li'u li'u mupli lok= a xamgu

na nabmi .i le vanbi be le cusku cu ro roi ralju .i le do cusku
vanbi mupli cu mutce rirci .i lo nu galfi la .lojban. cu na sarcu=A0

> > =A0And this discussion doesn't belong here.<= /u>

pe'i le mriste po by fy cu drani

-Robin

Okay, everybody, read that. Again. Espec= ially the part that's bold, italic, and underlined.

Did you read= it? Good. Now kill this thread.

Secondly, this is not a real propos= al. I honestly thought people would be able to tell, considering the use of= the word "friggin'", which is not language that would ever b= e used in a serious proposal. And even if it were a serious proposal, it wo= uldn't change the language in any case.

The point of the "Friggin' Proposal" was to vent some of = my frustration as the needlessly long and many times painful debate over th= e concept of 'text' that has been going on on the BPFK list since t= he 9th. Counting today, that's nearly a week of wasted energy that coul= d've been spent doing BPFK work.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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