From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDcmfnlBBoEZlbvjQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 19 18:59:14 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8NxO-0003ON-Jr; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:59:14 -0700 Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3sf2827451gyh.16 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dwl7/67xH0hm2JNGAS0+C7w7w5skVbaJo/5j5TTKk7I=; b=kQTpRvT6Ef784b4xfumZsrS1qU9hz/H67KC6te0hp0rjlCLaVIFZD0IcUV4Vrnj6QT lNzKTmFeC/5sMbNxG3xYVBeYHqtymNysquvTZI2bEyalSv5VgS8Dz6uEJRyq6srl/Lzj VQOMB/X80DAVOazsueqLFme90BsBpMlGrj/bI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=eK5VpUyZkWnsxQUBAQC8p02ruxth2Lyk4otQCxR9QSgM4UQXeAUmdUNeB1oS+i7tBA 9KJp6O2kt7/dwYf1VyfNsT/g5WUmSyF19rw46uC4CXwXZfF1Uc/cHUbCBJmgSSWgutJ7 UyKRzi5aczZXhkxm4po4EdyhkAMGsmMUqQzrg= Received: by 10.150.171.15 with SMTP id t15mr4787ybe.29.1287539932258; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.180.73 with SMTP id bt9ls753225ibb.0.p; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.82 with SMTP id q18mr2958815ibx.11.1287539931417; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.82 with SMTP id q18mr2958814ibx.11.1287539931350; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com (mail-iw0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bm7si11289957ibb.2.2010.10.19.18.58.50; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.171; Received: by mail-iw0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 38so3415620iwn.16 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.190.75 with SMTP id dh11mr5575542ibb.189.1287539930170; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.208.15 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:58:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <52e4a1b6-47a3-45df-b5a6-8d17188c0594@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <33d16e95-964e-4323-a2a7-a386033ed216@l25g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <279f6d20-0d37-49f6-9ed4-6b542eff3398@b14g2000pro.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:58:50 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Abstraction terminators: kei and ku From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b6ecc2c058c049302c07c --0016367b6ecc2c058c049302c07c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > .i doi .aionys. zo .e banzu lo nu spuda zo ji .i mi xenru lo nu da'i mi > fazycmadau > > mu'o mi'e .latros. > .i ki'e do na nitcu xenru .i mi djuno lodu'u lo mi spuda cu zmadu banzu On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Lindar wrote: >> >>> xD! >>> >>> OMG! After all my huffing and puffing! >>> >>> Seriously, that was just retarded. It's like a reflex when I speak, >>> but sometimes I'm retarded when I type. >>> >>> .i mi nitcu lo nu ta'i se bangu la .lojban. .i ta'i ma pami srera tu'a >>> lo ba'e fa'orma'o >>> >>> I get annoyed because often you try to retort in Lojban, which comes >>> off as you trying to seem like the better/smarter person because >>> you're doing it in Lojban. The truth of the matter is, most of the >>> time I just can't understand what you're saying. It sounds like a >>> Chinese person stumbling over English. It could be your crappy Lojban, >>> it could be that me and mine tend to speak "simple Lojban". >>> >> >> Do you not remember my rant about us not speaking in Lojban? My "retorts" >> in Lojban are in Lojban for two reasons - I consider Lojban to more polite >> than English, even the most formal polite English, and it is my opinion that >> everyone - newbies and oldbies alike - should be using Lojban as much as >> possible. >> >> >>> =D >>> >>> So, debate end! >>> >>> I'm seriously really majorly trying to tone down the mean. >>> >> >> No worries, mate. I'm rather socially inept as well as being laid back, so >> not only do I understand, I'm not bothered. >> >> >>> ni'o ki'e .aionys. mi ckire do lo nu do samymri fi mi .i mi ca'a troci >>> lo nu clite bau le glibau gi'e pluka rodo vau lo nu casnu .iku'isai mi >>> ca je ca'o tolclite se bangu la .lojban. .y doi mabla zo'o .i nupre >>> nu'e >>> >>> to mu'onai .aionys. do se cmene zo .ai,onys. ji zo .a,ionys. toi >>> >> >> .i na vajni .i zo .a,ionys. .e zo .ai,onys. .i ri .e ra traji simsa .i do >> troci bacru >> >> >>> mu'o >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu >> do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@g= mail.com> wrote:
.i doi .aionys. zo .e banzu lo nu spuda zo ji .i mi xenru lo nu da'i mi= fazycmadau

mu'o mi'e .latros.

.i k= i'e do na nitcu xenru .i mi djuno lodu'u lo mi spuda cu zmadu banzu=

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Jona= than Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
<= /div>


On Tue, Oct = 19, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> = wrote:
xD!

OMG! After all my huffing and puffing!

Seriously, that was just retarded. It's like a reflex when I speak,
but sometimes I'm retarded when I type.

.i mi nitcu lo nu ta'i se bangu la .lojban. .i ta'i ma pami srera t= u'a
lo ba'e fa'orma'o

I get annoyed because often you try to retort in Lojban, which comes
off as you trying to seem like the better/smarter person because
you're doing it in Lojban. The truth of the matter is, most of the
time I just can't understand what you're saying. It sounds like a Chinese person stumbling over English. It could be your crappy Lojban,
it could be that me and mine tend to speak "simple Lojban".

Do you not remember my rant about us not speaking= in Lojban? My "retorts" in Lojban are in Lojban for two reasons = - I consider Lojban to more polite than English, even the most formal polit= e English, and it is my opinion that everyone - newbies and oldbies alike -= should be using Lojban as much as possible.
=A0
=3DD

So, debate end!

I'm seriously really majorly trying to tone down the mean.

No worries, mate. I'm rather socially inept as well = as being laid back, so not only do I understand, I'm not bothered.
=A0
ni'o ki'e .aionys. mi ckire do lo nu do samymri fi mi .i mi ca'= a troci
lo nu clite bau le glibau gi'e pluka rodo vau lo nu casnu .iku'isai= mi
ca je ca'o tolclite se bangu la .lojban. .y doi mabla zo'o .i nupre=
nu'e

to mu'onai .aionys. do se cmene zo .ai,onys. ji zo .a,ionys. toi

.i na vajni .i zo .a,ionys. .e = zo .ai,onys. .i ri .e ra traji simsa .i do troci bacru


mu'o

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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