From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBCd2vzlBBoEXw2tkw@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 20 10:56:07 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8ctP-0003Ey-J6; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:56:07 -0700 Received: by gwj22 with SMTP id 22sf3565541gwj.16 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wpikxpv/7XVSuIECxIl8zm9Yy4ZfhaH+z16Cg3N3nTs=; b=oVgKR1vkC2fpSD7+dlNyTICJJLpwfWrcweBlFkD61LPsYbbpB7fyn6qPL/77jxpn4+ x84uaf38qi6bxFypSU98B+ffrLuVrgb04QweMRTAfR/G10dH+TI6uV/KhA4wnB/nSf1h 9lMt8ddVL920To9SjMaq4ZzfzcqdPsBbCsj28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=JcvgDC39kh2uHTd/ZLESxWJgGMpxf8gC5Bj/Twy+31/K1raGs7mRwwl+dUFpXIaRVi ouvCrdYSlXpIkEPE+Gb6UCR3Lw9P7NZ/prQ4rwBzGd4dKkAvGzHZYP3aO1dSyYdSfv5w ILCFDfGO/KUMZ2aR9MsLxlOcFYi5585mVOsqk= Received: by 10.101.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr246560anl.76.1287597341995; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.54.26 with SMTP id c26ls480893ana.2.p; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.48.11 with SMTP id v11mr2885068anv.27.1287597341055; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.48.11 with SMTP id v11mr2885067anv.27.1287597341028; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f170.google.com (mail-yx0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v15si194714ana.6.2010.10.20.10.55.40; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.170; Received: by yxf34 with SMTP id 34so1174418yxf.29 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.75.7 with SMTP id y7mr616918icj.419.1287597339807; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.14 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80BFFF28-45C0-4B2B-B4EC-CAFB84DE3F87@albanocruz.com> References: <80BFFF28-45C0-4B2B-B4EC-CAFB84DE3F87@albanocruz.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:55:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban for beginners From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fd2170d8fda0493101eef --90e6ba3fd2170d8fda0493101eef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I usually pronounce Robert as rab,rt as the CLL suggests. Maybe someone from the UK can give input on the pronunciation there. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Albano Cruz <3dtreboles@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi to all... > > I've started the translation into Spanish of "Lojban for beginners", and I > just encountered my first doubt. The following paragraph contains yhe > lojbanization of the nam Robert: > > - - - > The final point is stress. As we've seen, Lojban words are stressed on the > penultimate syllable, and if a name has different stress, we use capital > letters. This means that the English and French names Robert come out > differently in Lojban: the English name is robyt. in UK English, or rab,rt. > in some American dialects, but the French is roBER. . > - - - > > Robert in English becomes "robyt", apparently. But... shouldn't it be > "robyrt" ? > > Thanks in advance, > .albanos. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba3fd2170d8fda0493101eef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I usually pronounce Robert as rab,rt as the CLL suggests. =A0Maybe someone = from the UK can give input on the=A0pronunciation=A0there.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Albano Cruz <3dtreboles@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi to all...

I've started the translation into Spanish of "Lojban for beginners= ", and I just encountered my first doubt. The following paragraph cont= ains yhe lojbanization of the nam Robert:

- - -
The final point is stress. As we've seen, Lojban words are stressed on = the penultimate syllable, and if a name has different stress, we use capita= l letters. This means that the English and French names Robert come out dif= ferently in Lojban: the English name is robyt. in UK English, or rab,rt. in= some American dialects, but the French is roBER. .
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Robert in English becomes "robyt", apparently. But... shouldn'= ;t it be "robyrt" ?

Thanks in advance,
.albanos.

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