From lojban-beginners+bncCJKRpP31BRDDkoLmBBoEdr6fww@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 21 11:41:31 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P904u-00018Q-N6; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:41:31 -0700 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf10025vws.16 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received :mime-version:received:received:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tN/b6xu1duaJcxc6pujNeWJO+CMN2PDOcs04eRTcvtc=; b=gMu4/i9M8a16Fw0AqjR/e2y/op2wqvcBO2Px76oICkCj0WRDmLEgoAh/VE9k2pzjXf wyyXSl1W88M/Ym0/zHnUTseod/n8lq+mwY50fsdITg2QECOVDCstAQLUXwdPRBd+1krO lU2WsoKYrcZsG9iM0VnrqI3mRJ6/dNYe+XA2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5cmVCKFcr0DuIQKITpi+gJk6EDmN82vtbw5y7tWOLBG8x7YxzJMQ00wNZqLepRk7mJ Od/djx33kmxzdk5qqwIZMTduXlB6MMs5hCDV+xKoZEQwJK0WAoTvu1W0BXqrmiLNBpq+ j0M6yUcas+DGwfO2SjIgUIsjIpwg+pJNTah3g= Received: by 10.220.90.65 with SMTP id h1mr36164vcm.36.1287686467937; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.52.1 with SMTP id f1ls483010vcg.0.p; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.154.3 with SMTP id g3mr632586ybo.20.1287686466839; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:41:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.135.12 with SMTP id m12mr29003ann.27.1287665381142; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by g13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:49:41 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 68.142.49.116 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/8.0.552.5 Safari/534.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] How to say "should" in Lojban From: Zifre To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: kmicklas@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What is the best way to say "should" in Lojban? For example, "I should go home". nitcu, bilga, and sarcu are all similar, but they don't seem to have quite the same connotations as the English words "should" or "ought". For example, .i mi nitcu lonu klama le zdani Is not quite the same, because I might not *need* to go home, it would just be beneficial in some way. .i lonu mi klama le zdani cu sarcu and .i mi bilga lonu klama le zdani and are not quite the same either. What is the best way to express this idea? Is there some obvious gismu that I haven't noticed? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.