From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxC69YPmBBoEBrb8aA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 21 19:45:39 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P97dO-0004DP-SC; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:39 -0700 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf117916pvh.16 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=N0Bao6oua9wlHK/wewCfS6eUi1BU4ICjOcUNYj+M60Y=; b=d/OWXLhfsLZBYCBFpVCsKI55p6e86A+OGluRWCUyrIvcMsvmH3ANMBns8UUEgLHrNl SNjvqqAdpy49s28O8HGqayaAtu52P57To24aXvJ3J5AIEOwf+NvFhe27R9tosuIfbcBZ A1rixIMftcUGhN3C5i113nmAiR+u0hMAUuLIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=FZB8kubtRWeCRpohS4YtFTmju+7mLxPPEAdpLaf45lRwfBkyFb0YVPgGcDlpFApSds Q0e0phzGMVW09j/wbxfqjx3Agnrpm5uMG8nM/RY4T+OlESJl4J8B4wcK4ZNTAjpFYWwx 4OLEbIbTO0issd7lShLNOMfOzcTJCGyr/c/0Q= Received: by 10.142.152.26 with SMTP id z26mr115423wfd.13.1287715514083; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls4049817wff.3.p; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr1099507wfe.20.1287715513035; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr1099506wfe.20.1287715513008; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si5223468wfl.7.2010.10.21.19.45.12; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=oTYzX38C5R0A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=fmMnXP_FmwcvKEGQ4asA:9 a=tk24pnJBnDpg5UWLGUChcBml7wkA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:56750] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D9/27-13137-8BAF0CC4; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:45:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0811786F for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo preti be lo fu'ivla Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:45:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <0ca250ab-7215-4e21-8e3d-e5a9ee461c68@b9g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010212245.05751.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 21 October 2010 21:33:27 Geoffrey Stewart wrote: > Yes, I did actually notice that some time ago, though I thought it would > mean "Day type-of experience" (I just looked up lifri and found that in > fact x1 is the experiencer, not the experient. That gloss was misleading)= . The gloss is valid if taken as a verb. A gloss "experiencer" would go as th= e=20 place-1 keyword. > But if I dropped the S, wouldn't it be an invalid cmene, seeing how they > must end in a consonent? Just wondering. A brivla can be used as a cmene, even though it's not a cmevla. i mu'a la= =20 xantyde'i xaskoi du la kot.divuar. i lo bercribe cu cribe .iku'i la bercrib= e=20 cu tarmei mu'omi'e .pier. --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.