From lojban-beginners+bncCICntNPQBRDm94vmBBoELHKtvg@googlegroups.com Sat Oct 23 08:15:11 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P9foE-00044A-2n; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:15:10 -0700 Received: by mail-yx0-f189.google.com with SMTP id 42sf2291149yxe.16 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QpW0ZUJUDmFrfTuwnYBFMN3QTWT9bAXexbmcLXv5ktU=; b=dfJpRU0KVjHboFrWEX5R7gjx0UJ5YGZSmPfEfF8QZT0m7XY7LbUXQ8aP7uZY0W/tgU UsH9t4HwDJfrKaOc+WSHcrK4mIYvO5owuakSU2ATf4/ro6bPAU7SROqSiWdtmhOIPskv 89DL3ECpX+0nS3CDEC0XmO0JMwl5lStfEJ10E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O+w7SFAALIBzBQvnOeaVSeX65ovqziyElCY+lDYmos6HqXzRcEgnOM2vVUfgFry6td yRurs8aNnVpJole3DRqqonsBJGkdi1BebgKWyYh2Kj8Gwtn8kbIK5ESr9U+vu2KOCDnF U5hODdWq6vrgt44OLOdBVI4btJPqn/wJRqlt0= Received: by 10.101.25.15 with SMTP id c15mr180605anj.17.1287846886421; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.28.24 with SMTP id f24ls1379012anj.0.p; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.3.31 with SMTP id f31mr180852ani.21.1287846883144; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.190.6.96 References: <201010221925.40431.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How to say something beyond my level From: Lindar To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > did I get most of that? Minus the bit about sawing vs. hacking vs. clawing vs. scraping vs. chopping vs. hugging vs. botanically molesting... yeah. x1 of katna is the thing/object that's doing the actual cutting, so {.i mi jai gau katna} or {.i mi ka'argau} would be preferable. > also, it seems like it would be invalid to use krixa to scream informatio= n. That's correct. > {mi krixa zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.} is clearly wrong, but what about Clearly... > {mi krixa se du'u zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.}? =A0Also wrong, right? Also wrong. You forgot LE there and there's only one sumti in your se du'u. lo se krixa is a sound, not anything meaningful like text, so it's not particularly important for now. Maybe try lausku? "Loud-express" Sorry for the excess information (I'm sure the point isn't which value of 'cut' you need, but the time-related conditions) and I hope your discussion turns out well. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.