From lojban-beginners+bncCICntNPQBRCP7KPmBBoEwcRoew@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 27 21:03:48 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PBJiL-0006jH-Dq; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:48 -0700 Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20sf2284943gwj.16 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CyFFATccppCfpK3KBn6G1AoOD0g02uIe3NBv2JO+Yzc=; b=IwdJy8Hv/KrAMhxHQQrjGJ9geCjfD+vtH7YeF3NwbcPVsda54pf7TEpew2zHnF1Bzz P2W423EBM4GoGZeSFGLTpmIotslDndFPVO4UNZh6hw8OEcaSpHZc0TQ8xn0UR7nP1d5w vVoh/dD+ndfnytiRBJKp2ciBOQS8rij8DLzO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=NtRlggq8+2VVqu/0tco5TxoXSMwftXg6xHHW2vlP0E7NQUfF+SHoutRrsAu3guliJB IKSCIPpxZe8HcKsZda1DP838vl/8P1jAzBBR5oM8tpYiKhPjsSAEKaSTatT6JnyjEU1u WROIcmDkDPQ0l8jKgOiA7EUvxWS6/zo/D+DYo= Received: by 10.150.174.42 with SMTP id w42mr1622701ybe.59.1288238607167; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.6.21 with SMTP id 21ls261836agf.5.p; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.55.1 with SMTP id h1mr155810agk.44.1288238606404; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by a37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101027160630.GD43996@alice.local> X-IP: 166.135.215.252 References: <20101027160630.GD43996@alice.local> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <2b585d63-1def-4797-8c75-453e66cac098@a37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mi kakne lo bajra From: Lindar To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would just like to contribute a bit here. There is no implicit event-ness of the x2 of kakne, it's just that it's required to make sense. {.i mi kakne lo bajra} literally means something like "I am capable of a runner.". No sense is made. So {lo bajra} is a runner. It is something which runs. {lo nu bajra} is running (or "an event of being a runner"). It is the actual event itself. I am capable of an event of being a runner. {.i mi kakne lo nu bajra} So... your meaning is strange. Come bug us on IRC if you want to talk about it in real-time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.