From lojban-beginners+bncCJGY6cDlFhDOkKzmBBoEbYTCjw@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 29 10:46:11 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PBt1k-0002Hm-La; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:46:11 -0700 Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13sf763331fxm.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nttsStfkmXQIBXvhgEKFUcA1hG0G7wmdHcjcvmp8t4s=; b=oZMwdCOSaMXoMrhY/gqtCUENGwCVJXe5nZ+DQAAuf3XjGWiy+Jxo4vhzmmTTy7V+Y8 zraoeE/1UbS+nVSmlNEkEY/i9o//2UC0PTONE8j0hvkxxddo6hF6ALe3YhsLLBoP5VGT 0Kl/gAImZFI2GqBSsoSgKncZmEMJArFkYbECc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=UjB+J3QwoW9itDgu5Ru4vLimBdw5XYXfyilfRCjwMH88FHShMC1CAPjweEP7GKBFAX RRLI9IWJdCQOgCQOtKJtB1eGCkzr21cjXJA3AIBIxLZ/UZVtQ9IrftjolOnHrR/0ZBZe pGgKsCXm947iasAYPjP/XmxO2GlUH/qSjkHNo= Received: by 10.223.96.142 with SMTP id h14mr342002fan.2.1288374350517; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.49.147 with SMTP id v19ls1106495bkf.1.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.140 with SMTP id d12mr579155bkd.3.1288374349398; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.140 with SMTP id d12mr579154bkd.3.1288374349370; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (mail-fx0-f43.google.com [209.85.161.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z17si700802bkb.7.2010.10.29.10.45.48; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.43; Received: by mail-fx0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 19so3280371fxm.30 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.69.141 with SMTP id z13mr2894689fai.72.1288374348164; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.139 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101027160630.GD43996@alice.local> <2b585d63-1def-4797-8c75-453e66cac098@a37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <201010280843.15900.jezuch@interia.pl> <2327e11e-c10a-42d4-9e8f-bc3841fd75d9@j33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <20101028171348.GB45294@alice.local> From: Oren Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: mi kakne lo bajra To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It doesn't seem right to me that there are all of these implicit types associated with certain gismu, without my knowledge. I feel like, especially for learners of lojban, these virtual "parts-of-speech" should be explicitly laid out, so that people don't have to question whether "running" is an event or an action or what have you. So... If anyone wants to help, I'm going to do this and integrate it into the Chinese translation for the gismu list I'm doing. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AoZKIeNnTBe2dFAtNHNmWTlyeFR1TzIzaUZwMXNWeEE&hl=en&authkey=CNCr2d0B co'o mi'e korbi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.