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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. Message-ID: <20101006182219.GJ24166@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <84c5d2b7-de8e-4789-83f3-f5aebb028d46@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20101006154504.GC24166@alice.local> <20101006174737.GG24166@alice.local> <20101006175518.GH24166@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.49 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline I'm conflicted by this message as well. Lindar's e-mail is very close to going into my killfile, though the content of his messages is very good. Reading them, however, sometimes makes my day worse. Lindar, I really really enjoy listening to your ideas and I get a lot of out them. I struggle some days to read past the tone of your e-mail, and that struggle is getting closer to my acting on it by filtering your e-mail out of my inbox. I would really rather not do this. I request that you separate your proposals and suggestions from judgement or dismissiveness of other ideas. Your proposals are strong enough to stand on their own merit. -Alan On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:14:44PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > wow, you actually are kind of a prick from time to time. I took no offence > to anything you said but jeeze-oh-man. Could you get any more... intense? > As far as I can tell, nobody here is being argumentative. We're having > discussions about pros and cons of various systems before we decide on > which (if any) should be standard. > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Lindar <[1]lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote: > > detri > > ^ > | > | > | > > Now you can all stop arguing. > > The day we switch to an obviously better calendar like fixed > international (weeks should start on Monday, that's how they work in > the corporate world, that's how they should be, and frankly I could > give two shits about what the religious people think because half of > them are too loopy to be on board with anything in the first place let > alone Lojban [plenty of offence meant to people that would be offended > by this, none to those who wouldn't be]) is also the day we switch to > dozenal, stop selling cigarettes, forever get rid of the drug problem, > finally feed Africa, and make marijuana legal everywhere. > > =D > > Stop idealising. Make something that works for the current standard, > then fuck off with your ideals and show us how to use it. > > So, back to my point, {li pa lo'o detri} is the first day of the week. > Add {pi} and expand as necessary to week number, month number, year > number, etc. If you want to lujvo it, pavdetri, pavypizyreldetri, etc. > > Have fun, and you can thank me later. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [2]lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [3]lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > [4]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com > 2. mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com > 3. mailto:lojban-beginners%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > 4. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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