From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxDczMfnBBoEKo1hmw@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 27 21:19:44 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZfp-0003cn-FR; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:44 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf1370179pvh.16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=rOy1txEZKJFbt8meI0cPL+1xiFW5+HYxtQwy8y3ohNQ=; b=wPIpDnhQ/ZK09hMBZdTyTfxx8m3QFnXZdDFV2XJQoQVyh4KN6IVSWz4HqpzGqUCB0K ZQSygVQAVrUnyC7dMsFuU4wYwSGgEIrssFfTWV2sCVaBM2bmBvxuuGNs1Eyzcbt+AsQf ZXJ1c/qdx3wGu9iDR9fMV0u2kJYRSWVtsyVI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=j7utuX5FidsHoX2DmP7+YgoaeJc/X6t9qevDfj2qrrZASScIioMwg+KEWTwp+YfdLJ pGKOgFEKe70AjfzrtKadZ4X1xcfYEgP8GWwYelCn1Bx/6HpYe6lOaGBYLILQ8MG25mJx 6+mbCx39hOiS2xu98cfjieqfy8xf5dH9mwRf4= Received: by 10.143.153.7 with SMTP id f7mr162291wfo.55.1290921564778; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls6436443wff.3.p; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.11.4 with SMTP id 4mr2786854wfk.10.1290921562805; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.11.4 with SMTP id 4mr2786853wfk.10.1290921562782; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f13si4309253wfo.0.2010.11.27.21.19.22; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pepdxKapwHuwCZNFD5uob2wvham6E+RljB0uXw08FdQ= c=1 sm=0 a=W7XN3l9uGywA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=DgODRUopZ-CKiCSvA0oA:9 a=pMk7dHSVzV_j6KiKGb5tikLJd3QA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:48427] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EC/81-19545-956E1FC4; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C6B14033 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:19:18 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [fanva] "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:19:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011280019.17565.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 27 November 2010 22:42:21 Oren wrote: > Submitting this to tatoeba, please correct as necessary! > > "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu na go'i } > > Could I get away with either of these endings? > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu na } > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu } Both are grammatical, but after ".i xu na" I'm expecting a brivla, so it's probably intended as an answer to a question to which one could also answer "ja'a". > In general, what other ways are there to 'lojbanically' say: > > "bla bla bla bla, right?" How about ".i je'u xu"? Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.