From lojban-beginners+bncCMPA7-ejFhD4zsjnBBoEeHGf_A@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 28 01:57:36 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMe0g-0004En-I3; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:35 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf78327gwj.16 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ea2sEwPhQXmBvMP+zcrPUYeb3ZYsqry1cJd16pbHJmo=; b=YxuCTzubFKM8wk3tGinkZiN1ZHI22xQ8hUzgg3zQR/FrQKgluj0wBfxe085C8nCHxS Xc06RXag0U9O5zQ7TBZxPHEpDs9COkxc+uNx+1VNMQ6b5RdjuS9C+jw7ozSaQSvohKpI SR7G6JuP76wjLwxSCt00MPOeRvdN91vjHgcIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5AvP/d8UhtTU1ejssTLG33P3NxuME3ISTChlulb0qk7D12GSCU/uHzgzJSjHym73dR uENnoxKVZe25dZ1ox+t/UmImlgwoZng7KOQk27y3ZFJkEORkuTA5Q20G/pILxrACHGQA hYgkI5h5l4F1aQicRmC9VlHix8tkGGbTiZVB4= Received: by 10.100.152.3 with SMTP id z3mr109696and.11.1290938232904; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:12 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.47.18 with SMTP id u18ls880774anu.5.p; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.122.2 with SMTP id u2mr802518anc.11.1290938232079; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.122.2 with SMTP id u2mr802517anc.11.1290938232062; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d34si888327and.11.2010.11.28.01.57.11; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com designates 209.85.213.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.53; Received: by ywa6 with SMTP id 6so16199453ywa.40 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.111.18 with SMTP id j18mr3141719anc.255.1290938230747; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.92.12 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:57:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:57:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [fanva] "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" From: Brian Shannon To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com designates 209.85.213.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@googlemail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > The first one would be a real question that also conveys a sort of > doubt: I think I know the answer but I ask to be sure. The first one asks a question without conveying doubt. The meaning of {xu} doesn't change depending on where it is in the sentence. To express doubt, you would use {ju'ocu'i} -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.