From lojban-beginners+bncCMPA7-ejFhCFkcnnBBoE2WsAyA@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 28 04:18:34 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMgD9-0003tR-0F; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:33 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf133480gwj.16 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6e029pjHR2NZ7aP/CYHJ8V7lN1kveewmasEK4RpjbmQ=; b=vTya1Ts44RsLlp3gj6zLXzQuabFptzSWCggYNaQqH4fz0Dy5ztv3rxovZfqBDv0gJH eZG9uDFz4K7361AGOVI57Qb/KFVqbHoTBvHDPL6DbeSih4/CHRVkC5nuFTezQQRCKS6T mQS7fjWXCIDb7M3MwCOLFEVsoJNuH+UF3LUIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Q3riI6Dwq/WjnWxqiFAsIWtXuEjSwqWj511dPAe1jqClOQ+B810g0RSIk7f4loWRaW 1IFMg8bvDmtoXvanXYZN8vZQ0Frduq5zlPyeesyw5AqEUhxXdKbcpNimyDs/ltR11R8V exQ5h6tJb9Wh6EXHfo4weH3ljxs41nBqDntCY= Received: by 10.101.125.4 with SMTP id c4mr113280ann.9.1290946693588; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.164.26 with SMTP id r26ls896372ano.4.p; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.154.11 with SMTP id b11mr779262ane.10.1290946692659; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.154.11 with SMTP id b11mr779261ane.10.1290946692641; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f176.google.com (mail-gy0-f176.google.com [209.85.160.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a26si534120ana.5.2010.11.28.04.18.11; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.176; Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so2115547gyf.7 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.111.18 with SMTP id j18mr3232247anc.255.1290946691424; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.92.12 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:18:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:18:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [fanva] "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" From: Brian Shannon To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@googlemail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Yes, if i *wanted* to express that I had doubts I would have used > {ju'ocu'i} but I could not wanting to do it. > When I'm using lojban with other humans I might want to be ambigous > and vague. When I'll use with computers (if ever) I'll be as precise > as possible. Yes, you do not *have* to express doubt. But you're still not expressing doubt unless you say so -- which was my point. mu'o mi'e .tcatipax. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.