From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDjndbnBBoENSyzIQ@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 30 15:55:37 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNa2n-00026B-3r; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:37 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf2373617gwj.16 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AOWVhBUGhsKtOBtfmpqWyR337l6TXfTx6VFAT4pdKJc=; b=vvv1yLQLFx8rB8z8X9hsGCYIm4imkmDqmBx26nOBbyHIpbmk7sIzPFrAqmLxrbbNk7 KuLWQWbnEeXuxMJVIp4KpfPvRBHiUwqbAj+eDC2JE2ZSK4dqTcPFgHCry3CSYGVqmEcb 81f2aKL67C8E2Aj3eUQM5ebAs4WONd5aFEwl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=mIuqqbQAExiXCBpiP9FCzjOxG0neXAONWG2wcQ/YxnTsuSUntC3u8jB/rlCq9gcm/e fXoVA+5e5Brm3NDZ7gAWSK9raIEe4zFsmswVSJCqzPIeuL7mwcTUvwFUySBctcg7kvvh nQvw8ljQzd37/ZAAmh8Lys4fUacbvKqW5TX/w= Received: by 10.150.162.2 with SMTP id k2mr452825ybe.19.1291161315534; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.225 with SMTP id d33ls2714955ibk.2.p; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr1007416ibd.4.1291161314541; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr1007414ibd.4.1291161314473; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si2686681ibq.5.2010.11.30.15.55.13; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.182; Received: by mail-iw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 39so8721515iwn.41 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.205 with SMTP id p13mr8092239iba.108.1291161313206; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.207.65 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <604115.16202.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <752705.36302.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <822423.65423.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <144450.19864.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <132939.86626.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <886986.39526.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <476795.46183.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <435142.54831.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 --0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have just discovered an error in the Smart.fm gismu lesson. This error did not originally exist, and was placed there at some later date. The definition for {cusku} on Smart.fm is currently "x1 says x2 for audience x3 via medium x4" This is incorrect. The English word "says" carries with it the implied meaning that it was verbally spoken. {cusku} is any form of expression, not merely speech, which is {ba'usku}. Originally, and correctly, {cusku} was "x1 expresses x2 for audience x3 via medium x4" Unfortunately, I am currently unable to fix this problem. It is my hope that Robin may be able to determine the method neccessary to fix this, when he has the time and inclination to do so. It is possible that the only way in which to fix it is to delete the item and re-add it with the correct definition. I am making this announcement on the Beginner's list as well in hopes that those of us who are using the lesson will be forewarned of this regrettable error, and also to hopefully shame the perpetrator a bit. :) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have just discovered an error in the Smart.fm gismu lesson. This err= or did not originally exist, and was placed there at some later date.
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The definition for {cusku} on Smart.fm is currently
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"x1 says x2 for audience x3 via medium x4"
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This is incorrect. The English word "says" carries with it t= he implied meaning that it was verbally spoken. {cusku} is any form of expr= ession, not merely speech, which is {ba'usku}.
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Originally, and correctly, {cusku} was
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"x1=A0expresses x2 for audience x3 via medium x4"
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Unfortunately, I am currently unable to fix this problem.
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It is my hope that Robin may be able to determine the method neccessar= y to fix this, when he has the time and inclination to do so.
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It is possible that the only way in which to fix it is to delete the i= tem and re-add it with the correct definition.
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I am making this announcement on the Beginner's list as well in ho= pes that those of us who are using the lesson will be forewarned of this re= grettable error, and also to hopefully shame the perpetrator a bit. :)

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmi= ma le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Co= me to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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