From lojban-beginners+bncCPGMg4mHHBC_gvnmBBoEN3bRhA@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 12 23:42:12 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHAkS-00013B-8z; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:42:12 -0800 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1sf6000792qyk.16 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:42:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LTXNzXAs00Mfopk5I8m0VK+ALgr4IbAu9+mhy6gMuEU=; b=4JmedHDt7SdKAlnbqgfsTOJryRHy+mac+7bA01veRM/4wvkGWYjnh16XleCSwLNkrN CYaa4uQv1f+4z2Cd2X8YI33V4bh1ZZO6zVeSjyMhT2fpFXzmD64VIr4a1TZCI7GBbRMS YSGNket0+6MwbVVIhSDVouitqYYK0IhdmAhj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rwanfDo7F4ku9S9u+t3DoiVl0v6DZ2QtMzQTAHrRUgAa574DweahzWSNOQivxc76sR badUxLEqY1EJPPpzstLiawONRxfXZALfO3Oh2PYpDCX2xTjrfElfqUHPzYDyfR+i8/NI 7tr0DkfpxBmH1Mb0Ov7sWiVEioLEN1VknJnJo= Received: by 10.229.43.139 with SMTP id w11mr423677qce.22.1289634111023; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.69.77 with SMTP id y13ls1242327qci.3.p; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.182.67 with SMTP id cb3mr361426qcb.27.1289634109664; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.182.67 with SMTP id cb3mr361423qcb.27.1289634109279; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f170.google.com (mail-qy0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s17si2005733qcq.13.2010.11.12.23.41.48; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.170; Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so271446qyk.1 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.75.21 with SMTP id w21mr2746140qaj.143.1289634108109; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.201.199 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7dfb5cb7-f07e-4ecb-b7bb-c01a9be6931c@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:41:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about the beginning and future of Lojban From: Ivo Doko To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ivo.doko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367d4f04e772820494ea56c6 --0016367d4f04e772820494ea56c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 13 November 2010 08:03, Luke Bergen wrote: > If you think about it, pony really shouldn't be a root word though. It's a > baby horse. Should there is a special root word for "baby kangaroo" as > well? Just because english decides that a word is important enough to > warrant a two syllable word doesn't mean that it's logical. > Ponies are not baby horses, they are a special breed of horses, actually a subspecies of what we generally refer to as "horses". The relation between "pony" and "horse" is about the same as between "terrier" and "dog". But rats and mice are scientifically speaking not the same species - mice are members of genus *Mus* (with 30 known subspecies), rats are members of genus *Rattus* (with 64 known subspecies), while ponies *are* the same species as other horses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016367d4f04e772820494ea56c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 13 November 2010 08:03, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com= > wrote:
If you think about it, pony really shouldn't be a root word though= . =A0It's a baby horse. =A0Should there is a special root word for &quo= t;baby kangaroo" as well? =A0Just because english decides that a word = is important enough to warrant a two syllable word doesn't mean that it= 's logical.

Ponies are not baby horses, they are a special breed = of horses, actually a subspecies of what we generally refer to as "hor= ses". The relation between "pony" and "horse" is a= bout the same as between "terrier" and "dog". But rats = and mice are scientifically speaking not the same species - mice are member= s of genus Mus (with 30 known subspecies), rats are members of genus= Rattus (with 64 known subspecies), while ponies are the same= species as other horses.

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