From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxCm4_nmBBoEyuXLZw@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 13 03:08:43 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHDyK-0005jZ-9U; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:43 -0800 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26sf1498981pzk.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=87MLBNrLU/tOR7GI/ka4VSrWjwb/hnKektNUhSOqpw8=; b=qtAvhH00vqCVNBxQu7UR6euTpDNfe4hAF0uQHeg70/LkTVLgBPICbQ0z0pJOMdoOcE LK0bJbJ4udk2NrakX5AQTWe8mIGx1q1L2r/r6XE27XsJwVExQy2zYJQLvzT5YuyLPuIS Cq4pcM+HqHPV+9PCeDgcRFK5/PVih00y+ZMQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=OWl/zuwGD694tfUfpfIMTxufsmu07DvV3S0zRr5JBKuGBRr1/H2OcCD0LxAHoHS5hM 5fAf8fNBWnRTjv067SSD7ibDR6mWCeTk5TBUropoA+AAayEYX4HnerNmM+32SIRLekaJ TSKyY8Ew4zJbI4ftnyN3H/mepW2bmoT77GP1g= Received: by 10.142.151.42 with SMTP id y42mr213408wfd.46.1289646502948; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls5461103wfb.0.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.11.4 with SMTP id 4mr2115181wfk.10.1289646501903; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.11.4 with SMTP id 4mr2115180wfk.10.1289646501877; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si7085391wfl.3.2010.11.13.03.08.21; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=G5BOHAFmMKEA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=BzwDsaAVEvBLEUPBA1QA:9 a=3U97weGqxd_nHYT18oTNAsDR8ooA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:37552] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 14/DA-07087-4A17EDC4; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:08:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DDD5FFA for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:08:20 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Jargon and Abbreviations Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:08:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011130608.17947.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 12 November 2010 16:49:19 Zifre wrote: > In the examples you gave, dislocation might be saskrndislokeicyna and > mikcrndislokeicyna. (To those who know more about this than me, how do > you decide on the final vowel?) "y" in a brivla is always a morpheme boundary, and "na" is too short to be or contain a rafsi, so those words are invalid. The final vowel is somewhat arbitrary. It can be set to the final vowel of the gismu, a repetition of a vowel in the foreign part, or a vowel that sounds good. Pierre -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.