From lojban-beginners+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCMuvvmBBoEFtkJgA@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 13 10:48:34 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHL9J-0003ZW-H2; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:48:34 -0800 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf2906996wyb.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:48:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MLdX4uxBv35qNEWFl5wDM5vX6kB8nAdTyIzoXQoC8Oo=; b=2TpSH81JEy56zLniT2llW+F2Gtkq8GmTWIQGTw7qb9dJPGONERltBhSmq5enF80s7a dfL/vjXVDAPqab36evi6SZotzFyNrV5rPLpIgq+1GnwVGbWWHs0+aJA3DodzuFc1TymP egACevz1hUpEKnaw5ycZt5lTsm97czAQvkqo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VveTobJ/tVsfHpLG1VtLuIhKs7Ki858d130pVdqdosu7LvVM/4mhWDBrCtvbF6E+JR 6+PyKDKQnmEzwKn9LTyg7pDMgPuSGe7ZXaBOpwXnjgn/LTCl9ezkxqL/TuiHqPb8iUgw O9iI9FRAPhRQPCdeGZWFbP6mJaVlULxFwjDxQ= Received: by 10.216.12.7 with SMTP id 7mr193721wey.26.1289673997102; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.79.7 with SMTP id h7ls1594082wee.1.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.16.134 with SMTP id h6mr201567weh.13.1289673994566; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.16.134 with SMTP id h6mr201566weh.13.1289673994545; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f51.google.com (mail-ww0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si110500wej.6.2010.11.13.10.46.33; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.51; Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so1384538wwb.8 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.127.134 with SMTP id g6mr4119945wbs.54.1289673993111; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <04b2e946-caa2-4de6-b6b9-489f6e61fb7d@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:46:33 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Jargon and Abbreviations From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wr= ote: > {.i .uicai .ua ki'e} > > Are there rules/guidelines for making legal (i.e. non-clashing) zi'evla? Yes, but they are somewhat complicated. You can find a list of forms here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DExhaustive+list+of+short+f= u'ivla+forms > What stops {sorpece} from being read as {sorpe ce}?=A0 Stress? {sorPEce} = vs > {SORpe ce}? Correct. > If I use the phrase {bacru fatci} (which I just kinda picked arbitrarily > from a gismu list, I think meaning something like "spoken truth") frequen= tly > in some context, can I also abbreviate it {byfy}? "by fy" is a sumti, but you can convert it to a selbri with "me": "me by fy= ". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.