From lojban-beginners+bncCPrlgoD04bGDVBCjtobnBBoEmFA-OA@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 15 12:42:32 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PI5sj-0002HM-9v; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:32 -0800 Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13sf1457590fxm.16 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GgELp4l21ojfK5yUTU0Vr/ZZymWhXDXrrO86aCBktdc=; b=rYe093VUdKVdjmKIOHbgRrETH5OOHZFaUgM1sKqAsJSIJg0bdbgHnJkWuzXbGKAeah E7e8ybJgcganHKy8KuEa1zf9JVQ5UU9WjuB6iFs3QTeVP6NPgA5QBddKZf8WUQS3EjY/ fxRO50Aza2KLph87+xajFxKD/odTrNvFPejHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=clbB6QXGnK/78LZ8uXmseum4gzTx6rRG84STmGTQwFI6wX/Ru/BJt8tbvm04IpPfdl KK9PPh04wrk/2xs40TXuAPg4EdLttb4yWwnPGjWp7hVl7GVM7Y6Ll8wSs9bJybKqf5i9 ucICB3eK3fLOfLJzkRnAcoHja55kjI4TCJXD4= Received: by 10.223.102.143 with SMTP id g15mr353910fao.32.1289853731517; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.207 with SMTP id u15ls2313084bks.2.p; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.80.146 with SMTP id t18mr477451bkk.8.1289853729710; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.80.146 with SMTP id t18mr477450bkk.8.1289853729679; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (mail-fx0-f43.google.com [209.85.161.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w9si58800bkz.4.2010.11.15.12.42.08; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.43; Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so4729037fxm.2 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.202 with SMTP id f10mr5128527faq.67.1289853727317; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.121.193 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:42:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7dfb5cb7-f07e-4ecb-b7bb-c01a9be6931c@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:42:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about the beginning and future of Lojban From: Philip Newton To: lojban-beginners X-Original-Sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=philip.newton@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 08:47, Remo Dentato wrote: > I'm sure that everybody, including those that had a part in the > creation of lojban, have their pain point about the language. The > (in)famous cultural gismu for example (glico, fraso, ...) or the fact > that in the last rafsi reallocation {tel} has not been assigned to > {te}. Heh, yeah. I find that annoying. sel, vel, xel, but ter. Why? mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.