From lojban-beginners+bncCOib25n_BhDr9tDnBBoEIkFDBA@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 29 16:17:33 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNDuT-0003zI-Bl; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:17:33 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf4068498wyb.16 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:17:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uDCa/2izOfiqTJWCQWzasKJQDSV9NfuWbnbzw5ZsE8k=; b=JulciVInPNUQ3tj6B2Jk6nMPCUg4nQe4tf8bv7el7MyKtIVHPF1hiGy9kv7Z/NlEa6 CpUQwmlNRG0xA4m1nFK4F6DIs1xUZWBsVswfLAoYDBQ9X5j1J2Gcoy+PT37jXkNgrwmT v04jhvctex0Ta8icbeMMSwkXyVek8miCDyCFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=jAiZbqiqizn6nvcHSGTBR8xc5s2qckHKPHDkq+dqbwHSjPsf9lxKE2sMOSrpYpUB4T sHrAPwfJdYeZOEa4ikYmN6u6rAAzLiCoaIHcaApIgEk9TPgyEZXElyN34nBIsg3aE6uj SB1THAyh6kRwUF1oVCVFmAv1ZDSb10Amt1EnE= Received: by 10.216.73.210 with SMTP id v60mr221879wed.16.1291074411566; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:46:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.123.10 with SMTP id u10ls707912eeh.2.p; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.123.10 with SMTP id u10mr860589eeh.6.1291074318088; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.123.10 with SMTP id u10mr860588eeh.6.1291074318042; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f175.google.com (mail-ey0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v14si1867404eeh.1.2010.11.29.15.45.16; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.175; Received: by eya28 with SMTP id 28so2440886eya.20 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.114.73 with SMTP id d9mr1565309ebq.86.1291074316827; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.23.10 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Day standard From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1d12087c8d049639aada --0015174c1d12087c8d049639aada Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems to me that {bavlamdei be fi *lo ctufau*} is only permissible due to xorlo. Is there a more precise way to fill in the "by standard x"? On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > >> In class today, I said "tomorrow" referring to the next day the class >> would occur, which happens to be Wednesday. >> I thought, "Huh. Lojban probably has a way of expressing this concept of >> tomorrow." So I checked. >> Sure enough: >> >> bavlamdei >> d1=b1=l1 is tomorrow; d1=b1=l1 is the day following b2=l2, day standard >> d3. >> >> Now I'm wondering, what would I use to fill in the third place? i.e. how >> would I say "We are presenting tomorrow, by day standard (days this class >> occurs)"? >> >> Actually, now I'm wondering how to say "We are presenting tomorrow." My >> abstractions and tenses aren't that good yet. >> >> PS >> We in this case is {mi'a}: I and others unspecified, but not you, the >> listener >> > "mi'a jarco ca lo bavlamdei be fi lo ctufau" should do nicely. > --gejyspa > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0015174c1d12087c8d049639aada Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems to me that {bavlamdei be fi lo ctufau} is only permissible = due to xorlo.=A0 Is there a more precise way to fill in the "by standa= rd x"?

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:41 = PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Nov 29= , 2010 at 2:18 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
In class today, I= said "tomorrow" referring to the next day the class would occur,= which happens to be Wednesday.
I thought, "Huh.=A0 Lojban probably has a way of expressing this conce= pt of tomorrow."=A0 So I checked.
Sure enough:

bavlamdei
= d1=3Db1=3Dl1 is tomorrow; d1=3Db1=3Dl1 is the day following b2=3Dl2, day st= andard d3.

Now I'm wondering, what would I use to fill in the third place? i.e= . how would I say "We are presenting tomorrow, by day standard (days t= his class occurs)"?

Actually, now I'm wondering how to say = "We are presenting tomorrow."=A0 My abstractions and tenses aren&= #39;t that good yet.

PS
We in this case is {mi'a}: I and others unspecified, but not = you, the listener
=A0 "mi'a jarco ca lo bavlamdei be fi lo ctufau&q= uot; should do nicely.
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